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Author Topic: Recommend a plastic model kit or two  (Read 1458 times)
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« on: November 30, 2016, 06:19:11 am »

My wife was asking for gift ideas for Christmas, after a while of not coming up with anything, I started thinking about all steamy models I've seen. I showed her a few pictures from a google search of what I was thinking of, hoping she would do the rest of the work of picking them out. Well, that backfired on me and now she wants a small list to choose from, so now I'm trying to find $20-30 (don't want to spend a lot on failed attempts) plastic model kits.

My original idea was something around a train, but those are not as easy to find as I thought, so I'm migrating toward a ship model and making it an airship of sorts. I'm not tied to any specific idea or finished product, as long as it fits in the broad idea of steampunk, I'm open to it. I know nothing will work straight out of the box, but I'm looking for any suggestions for kits to use as a starting point?

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2016, 09:44:19 am »

Oh yes, model trains are a surprisingly hard nut to crack.

You might wish to consider model airplanes.  Revell, for example, has some decent inexpensive models of old WWII and earlier planes with interesting old-fashioned shapes.

Or model cars.  I'm less familiar with companies that make model kits of very early automobiles, but I see there are some out there (ICM seems to have some, but I'm not familiar with the company, its reputation, or the quality of its kits.).

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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2016, 12:40:38 pm »

I would think that $20-$30 wouldn't be easy, may want to try HobbyLobby with a 40% off coupon or find one of those kinetic wooden pieces that we've seen before on here (sorry, can't remember exactly what and where though, but a google search may find them).
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2016, 06:14:11 pm »

Model kits for trains (meaning locos and rolling stock) are available; the unfortunate part (in the US at any rate) is that these days, most model kits in that line are only available through mail order or genre-specific hobby shops. If such a shop exists anywhere near you, you're in luck. If not, well, you might be out of it save for mail or internet order.

"Kitbashing" (combining parts of different model kits, parts of actual factory-built powered locos and factory-built rolling stock with disparate bits and pieces from other sources and other kits for other things besides railroad oriented things) is a common method of accomplishing what a railroad modelbuilder is trying to achieve, without having to spend piles of money on genre-specific merchandise. Model railroading and it's kits and such saw a renaissance in recent decades, but it's beginning to decline again, so less is available than there was say, five years ago, and much of what is still available has to do with scenery construction and post-steam technology (meaning diesels and the like).

I don't mean to paint a bleak picture; you can still do stuff, but you have to hunt harder now for the stuff to do it with.

Bachmann is a good company to connect with for rolling stock and right-of-way parts; they also still produce some locomotive and trackside building kits. Don't disdain trackside building kits; they can be a good source for kitbashing parts; things that look like they could be part of a loco or a steam engine, for example. The same goes for building things from ship model kits.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2016, 06:34:51 pm »

When I first cast around for a design for the St. Elmo,



my fictional airship for the Steam London RP, I came across model kits for ships like this one, an iron-hulled pre-dreadnought with half-turrets embedded in the hull, which inspired me to use a similar design for the gunboat hull (see above) that was married to the St. Elmo's rigid envelope:
http://www.amiami.jp/top/detail/review?scode=TOY-SCL2-18183

(apologies for the page being in Japanese)

I simply had my character raze the upper works and use the hull with the embedded half-turrets, in my personal case an (admittedly apocryphal) iron hull with paddle wheels, which were converted by my character, who was the builder and master, into ducted centrifugal fans.

Sorry about not doing as the article asks, but I don't know exactly what you're trying to accomplish, so I can't really recommend a specific kit; half of the fun, in my opinion, is the process of the search, though, so I'd hate to deprive you of that!
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2016, 07:33:58 pm »

Revell do a 1:720 Hindenburg.... plus a nice range of WWI fighter aircraft. 



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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2016, 07:45:05 pm »

Oh yes, (Smacks forehead) I forgot entirely about Japanese models.

These look promising, but probably tiny (they are ten random models for ¥4000 -- about $35) -- the only problem is they are those blind you-don't-know-what-you-are-getting collectible kits.  However, the submarines appear to be common, and they are exaggerated in a cartoony way which looks like something readily converted to airships.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2016, 08:09:15 pm »

 What about one of these as a basis for a display peice.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Academy-Water-Pumping-Engine-Educational/dp/B004BRC894/ref=pd_sim_21_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=7KKRGACAJMSZNTYWJX37

or

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Academy-Steam-Locomotive-Penydarren-Educational/dp/B004BRC8B2/ref=pd_sim_21_9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Q93F8FZFBZNMRB8P7568


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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2016, 11:13:08 pm »

Airfix do a nice beam engine- I made one when I was small, and it was quite satisfying. If I recall, it would take a little electric motor internally, to make it go, but I don't think it came with one. (The kits I remember are a LOT more expensive than they used to be, but still quite affordable.)

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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2016, 05:30:56 am »

Thanx for the suggestions. Trains are out for the time being, too hard to come by in the states. I was hesitant to look at anything out of the right eras, but it's looking like the way to go, just needed some encouragement. I'm thinking one of these may make a good starting platform.

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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2016, 03:17:11 am »

I am reminded of this:


A rare model kit of an actual steam-powered heavier than air craft, the Éole, built by Clément Ader. More information about the model here:
http://www.modelkitcollecting.com/topic847-10.html

It seems that the model is so fragile and difficult to build that the manufacturer included two sets of parts in the box so that you could wreck one of them, then build the other once you knew what was going to go wrong.

I have no idea where you would buy this kit. Possibly the European hobby aftermarket. More the shame that it isn't more available and better known.
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2017, 12:18:59 pm »

Oh yes, (Smacks forehead) I forgot entirely about Japanese models.

These look promising, but probably tiny (they are ten random models for ¥4000 -- about $35) -- the only problem is they are those blind you-don't-know-what-you-are-getting collectible kits. 

Usually when you buy them from HLJ you get the entire collection, one of everything you see there.

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2017, 12:21:36 pm »

Thanx for the suggestions. Trains are out for the time being, too hard to come by in the states.


http://www.revell.com/germany/other/80-2165.html#.WIHpYlxBqSo
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2017, 01:23:10 pm »

http://pegasushobbies.net/catalog/Models-Sci-fi-Kits/c107_47/p2/%239120-1/144-The-Nautilus-Submarine-Kit/product_info.html
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2017, 01:32:34 am »

Sure would be nice if they had an actual photo.
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2017, 02:59:03 am »

Sure would be nice if they had an actual photo.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Nautilus+Submarine+Kit%22&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBhOjBjNLRAhUnjFQKHY4cAF0Q_AUICSgC&biw=1275&bih=576#tbm=isch&q=Pegasus+%22Nautilus+Submarine+Kit%22
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2017, 03:03:59 am »



I like it. It has details of a metal frame and riveted panels, and multi-paned windows, which gives a better feeling of scale than many less-detailed models.
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2017, 05:40:23 am »

Thought I updated this, oops. Got the U boot biber by Italeri, but probably won't start on it until spring.
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2017, 03:51:39 pm »

Cool and thanks!
Sometimes I'm lazy and sometimes I would hope that a dealers website would have more info. That Socal model site was pretty weak, no additional info on that piece, no shots, no specs....

I'm still trying to determine the actual size just based on pics.....maybe I'll use my fingers to type more than this and try to look more up myself. Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2017, 04:02:35 pm »

the Jacks from Warmachine are steam/magic powered robots. THey are very cool looking. Could always get one of those and paint it
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2017, 10:24:32 pm »

the Jacks from Warmachine are steam/magic powered robots. THey are very cool looking. Could always get one of those and paint it

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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2017, 03:24:44 am »



I bought this kit at the IPMS Nationals and can't wait to start on it.  It's cool enough to be steampunk, but is far enough away from the original (Disney) Nautilus that it really does not bring her to mind right off.

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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2017, 06:43:06 am »

The original Nautilus was not Disney; the original was a description from Jules Verne's pen.
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