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Author Topic: Who supports Steam Punk – with money?  (Read 753 times)
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« on: June 06, 2016, 02:03:00 am »

A further useless thought in the vein of Steam Punk commercialism, but this time perhaps with a positive outlook…

The Medici dynasty were patrons for Galileo allowing him to invent the Solar System for us all to live in.  Lord Carnarvon sponsored Carter to find King Tut so that we can now walk like an Egyptian.  Okay, so his Lordship kept a few of the Egyptian treasures, but then who hasn't?  Musk is developing Hyperloop.  We'll all be able to get to our soul destroying, six day a week jobs that much quicker.

Patronage is the theme here.  The only contemporary patron I can think of is Bezos funding Hillis and his 10,000 year clock.  Has there been or is there a Steam Punk patron that has enabled a significant work?


P.S.  If anyone out there feels like commissioning me to Pritt Stick gears onto a hat, I can do that for £1000.  I reserve the right to choose the hat.
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2016, 03:15:59 am »



 If I had the funds I would sponsor a large public steam punk  garden for events and school trips
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2016, 03:49:04 am »

When you buy a steampunk book or item you are supporting steampunk with money, so most people on this forum qualify as patrons.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2016, 06:34:24 am »

Most serious makers have been commissioned for some of their work. I know I have been on occasion. Back when Steampunk was a business for me, the two biggest sponsors of mine were 1) Sony America (yes that Sony), with one computer project specifically made for their trade shows made to attract young people, which was the idea of a young public relations girl in their San Diego corporate offices. That project started my business which lasted for 3 years as my sole source of income. 2) The other biggest sponsor was a lawyer who commissioned several large works from me, for his personal use. Sponsorship of the Steampunk arts is implied in every single commissioned project.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2016, 06:43:59 am »

You can proobably consult Jeff VanderMeer's "The Steampunk Bible" to get a rough idea on how many people have been sponsored by individuals and corporations.

Other people like Thomas Willeford have worked professionally - sometime with and sometimes without the approval of the Steampunk comunity, but nevertheless, he has made a stamp and had been commissioned with serious amounts of money for his work.

Some good artists like Skins n' Hidez (sp? Also a former member of BG) from Canada, have produced items for for celebrities' videos. Other times their work went for TV productions, like that episode in Castle where a Steampunk arm was shown (did Willeford do that one?). That's the most "commercial" Steampunk I can think of.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2016, 10:57:56 am »

Anyone who pays a $3 sub to keep this Forum active?
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2016, 03:29:56 pm »

I don't know, the question to me seems a little... abrupt, perhaps?

When we say 'who supports steampunk with money', are we idly asking who (for example) sent a few pounds or a few dollars (delete as applicable) to buy the Brassgoggles Ring a few years ago?  Or are we more insidiously looking who spends or gifts or donates what, and how much, and who to?  Two ways to read the question, one benign, one... maybe less so. 

And as we every so often have long threads and arguments that never go anywhere meaningful, and do even that painfully slowly, with much heat and froth but generating precious little else in the way of enlightenment, if we have those sorts of threads to even debate what Steampunk is, what good can come of a thread asking who supports the indefinable 'it' monetarily?  Example: I support, monetarily, a preserved railway, two charities committed to the preservation of Victorian and Edwardian buildings, a project to build a replica 1890s railway locomotive and the appeal fund for the restoration of Charles Rennie Mackintosh' Glasgow School of Art.  All of them, by my light, have elements of Steampunk about them.  For somebody else however there may be precious little that suggests Steampunk in any of those projects.  So I might claim to support Steampunk monetarily and cite those as examples and have someone contradict me and argue that they aren't Steampunk at all, not even tangentially. 

You see the sort of quagmire we might be getting ourselves into here?  Anyway, I'm not in any particular mood to look for a fight (and when I am I don't do that here), so I'll leave off in that vein. 

When you buy a steampunk book or item you are supporting steampunk with money, so most people on this forum qualify as patrons.
 

I think you have it quite right. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2016, 04:11:59 pm »

Patrons are all around us. We just separated patronage into a penny a pop and called it kickstarter!
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2016, 08:05:32 pm »

I don't know, the question to me seems a little... abrupt, perhaps?

When we say 'who supports steampunk with money', are we idly asking who (for example) sent a few pounds or a few dollars (delete as applicable) to buy the Brassgoggles Ring a few years ago?  Or are we more insidiously looking who spends or gifts or donates what, and how much, and who to?  Two ways to read the question, one benign, one... maybe less so. 

And as we every so often have long threads and arguments that never go anywhere meaningful, and do even that painfully slowly, with much heat and froth but generating precious little else in the way of enlightenment, if we have those sorts of threads to even debate what Steampunk is, what good can come of a thread asking who supports the indefinable 'it' monetarily?  Example: I support, monetarily, a preserved railway, two charities committed to the preservation of Victorian and Edwardian buildings, a project to build a replica 1890s railway locomotive and the appeal fund for the restoration of Charles Rennie Mackintosh' Glasgow School of Art.  All of them, by my light, have elements of Steampunk about them.  For somebody else however there may be precious little that suggests Steampunk in any of those projects.  So I might claim to support Steampunk monetarily and cite those as examples and have someone contradict me and argue that they aren't Steampunk at all, not even tangentially. 

You see the sort of quagmire we might be getting ourselves into here?  Anyway, I'm not in any particular mood to look for a fight (and when I am I don't do that here), so I'll leave off in that vein. 

When you buy a steampunk book or item you are supporting steampunk with money, so most people on this forum qualify as patrons.
 

I think you have it quite right. 

Even if the question is malicious, I doubt any damage could result from it. Who is going to reveal who they give money to? Generally patrons ask their artists not to reveal their name,  unless it's a large corporation  like an entertainment or movie company (or major electronic corporation,  as in my case) .

Ha! Just try to do anything to Sony.  You'll have a team of attorneys up your arse faster than you can say "Steam..." I had to avail myself of my mother who is an attorney, just to protect my rights when negotiating the contract.
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2016, 10:31:27 pm »

Every time I buy something at an event or give a free talk or workshop I am supporting steampunk.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2016, 11:15:31 pm »

the Brassgoggles Ring

Still got mine on display, quite chuffed with it Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2016, 02:23:46 am »

I make about half my living from steampunk items the other half from other sculptural pieces. I have been supported by buyers of my work.  I make something and they pay me for it.  Occasionally, I get commissions to build a custom piece. Nobody just gives me money with out getting something in return.

I am very grateful to those that have bought from me over the years.
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2016, 06:12:18 am »

Wait...We had a ring? Are they still available, and do I need one to decode secret messages?
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2016, 01:01:25 am »

I don't know, the question to me seems a little... abrupt, perhaps?

When we say 'who supports steampunk with money', are we idly asking who (for example) sent a few pounds or a few dollars (delete as applicable) to buy the Brassgoggles Ring a few years ago?  Or are we more insidiously looking who spends or gifts or donates what, and how much, and who to?  Two ways to read the question, one benign, one... maybe less so. 

It's both.  An abrupt question to garner attention, but one with benign intent.  Imagine a jelly melting in the gutter on a hot summer's day.  That benign   Smiley  I'm really not calling for tax returns to be posted here.

I was actually imagining patrons in the Medici sense.  Or in the sense of the UK National Lottery facilitating Gormley's Angel of the North.  This to me would be a yard stick of Steam Punk's popularity.  Imagine a  £1M EU arts grant for a giant Steam Punk assemblage for somewhere in central London.  Has there been such a thing?  Perhaps in the States?
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2016, 01:16:10 am »

There is a peculiarly Steampunk fixture in a rest area along I-10 in Texas. I think it's an information kiosk, or some such thing. Done up in brass and green (if memory serves), and looks a lot like something you'd find on the Nautilus. I don't know why it's there, because it does not match any of the other decor of this stop, but it's there. I don't remember if we took pictures of it or not. We're sure it was unintentional, and the artist was likely having a little in-joke on the state, but intentional or not it is a piece of taxpayer-funded Steampunk art.
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2016, 12:16:52 pm »

I don't know, the question to me seems a little... abrupt, perhaps?

When we say 'who supports steampunk with money', are we idly asking who (for example) sent a few pounds or a few dollars (delete as applicable) to buy the Brassgoggles Ring a few years ago?  Or are we more insidiously looking who spends or gifts or donates what, and how much, and who to?  Two ways to read the question, one benign, one... maybe less so. 


It's both.  An abrupt question to garner attention, but one with benign intent.  Imagine a jelly melting in the gutter on a hot summer's day.  That benign   Smiley  I'm really not calling for tax returns to be posted here.

I was actually imagining patrons in the Medici sense.  Or in the sense of the UK National Lottery facilitating Gormley's Angel of the North.  This to me would be a yard stick of Steam Punk's popularity.  Imagine a  £1M EU arts grant for a giant Steam Punk assemblage for somewhere in central London.  Has there been such a thing?  Perhaps in the States?


Ahh; it makes sense now.  To the best of my knowledge we haven't had a patron in that sense. I certainly don't have the money to chuck around like that (I wish I did!- there'd be a lot more in the line of major historical preservation projects seeing big donations from 'an anonymous donor' were that the case)...

Wait...We had a ring? Are they still available, and do I need one to decode secret messages?


I didn't realise it was five or six years ago; how time flies.  But here's the thread on the ring.  (I don't know if there are still some hiding for sale; I wear mine with pride on highdays and holidays).  http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,26441.0.html
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