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Author Topic: Grave Marker (was: Unmarked grave)  (Read 5236 times)
selectedgrub
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« on: September 23, 2015, 07:08:04 am »

At a cemetery where my family has a corner...
Over the other side there is a small old wooden cross, crudely made.
It is almost rotted away. No one tends it.
When my mum changes my dad's plastic flowers I often put the old ones on it.
I told my self I will find out who is buried there, the council should have records.
I will make new marker.

It was someones daughter. Someones son.
Loved fiercely once.
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2015, 07:28:38 am »

That is a noble deed.
Sir - I salute you.
I would like to follow your journey on this one, can you keep us informed if you find out who it is?
They might have Whānau who never new they existed or new where they ended.

(Whānau = Extended Family) For non Kiwis
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2015, 07:54:03 am »

Sure thing.




 
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2015, 12:26:58 pm »

Very gracious of you!
A most nobel act that will be gratifying to witness.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2015, 03:08:06 pm »

The more cynical part of me tell me there must be a reason for this unmarking and than you might not like what you find. But no reason is a good reason to steal someone his right to a proper eternal resting place.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2015, 03:23:00 pm »

A laudable mission, sir!

I (and my cousins) have several unmarked graves to find when I return to Ireland on a permanent basis, and memories to be marked. One cannot leave ones ancestors unrecognised, unacknowledged and unknown.

One good idea is to find out if there was a gravedigger - the job is often hereditory, and they must keep records somewhere.

The town I live in hasn't a cemetery of its own - at least, not one that has been used since the first interment. There is a 12 yr old girl buried in an unmarked grave in what looks like an ordinary grazing paddock once gazetted as a cemetery, but never used again. The town would have to run it as a trust, and nobody seems like they have ever wanted to do that. What a pity. People from this town who die have to be buried 18, 25 or 43 kilometers away from their families and friends.
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2015, 06:42:39 pm »

Commendable, sir. I'll be watching for updates on your progress.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2015, 10:19:13 pm »

A very noble and commendable pursuit Good Sir. Even if you are unable to find the identity of the interred, a precedent has been set by another of your countrymen with the grave of 'Somebody's Darling' (the body of an unidentified man that was found beside a road somewhere in NZ and buried under the name, on the grounds that he was 'Somebody's Darling').
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2015, 03:52:25 am »

Common reason is that one was too poor.
or some buttface stole it.
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selectedgrub
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2015, 08:06:25 am »

It could be a illegal burial, maybe someone buried their pet.
The council has plot numbers I do not know how far they date back.
I am going down the line in 2 weeks.
Will get photos and report back on findings.

Even if I find out the deceased, contacting their next of kin might be a mission.
I had better try to ask first before replacing.
It could be a very sentimental cross.

I will not go too over the top and will keep it a similar size.











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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2015, 10:12:25 pm »

 Huh
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2015, 12:18:52 am »

The more cynical part of me tell me there must be a reason for this unmarking

Recently buried a family member in the local churchyard. The area has been set aside for "green" burials, and one of the stipulations is no headstones, crosses or other tributes. The only marker is a small nameplate approximately 6"x3".
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2015, 02:25:52 am »

I'm not sure I agree.

My own will specifies cremation with no embalming-work.  Ashes are to be scattered (legally) on my own land, (assuming I buy a place), or (illegally) in a wild place.

I came into this life naked and nameless, and rather prefer to exit the same way. Being a compost-ingredient seems better than being a stiff in a box, someplace rented.

If family/friends remember me and pass on stories/legends, good.  If not, BFD. I'll be dead and I won't get annoyed.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2015, 08:12:39 am »

My Dearest Grub -

Your noble and selfless act extends the intent of the  original memorial . This is most commendable; these sites can become neglected for any number of reasons, often due to circumstances beyond anyone's control.

Such acts of kindness often have positive effects beyond the immediate and obvious.

We, as a species, need more acts of kindness, and people like yourself.

yhs
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2015, 07:49:53 am »

It's all good, thanks. Smiley

But this thread is more about the dearly departed.

 
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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2015, 03:02:32 pm »

selected, you are a kind man - there should be more kindness in the world.
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2015, 10:02:36 pm »

 Check on line

 most churches and public cemeteries have  plot maps .   Genealogy pages can have links to small town cemeteries and records. Historical societies are another boon of information.

 

 this in an intriguing mystery ...
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2015, 01:19:19 pm »

Not sure why this is posted in Off Topic.

Totally selfless, more than an honourable project...... Steampunk

Crafting of the highest standard...... Steampunk

Being a darn fine person, going above and beyond "being splendid"...... Steampunk

All we need is a cup of tea mentioned and this should be a sticky in Tactile.......

Hat firmly doffed, forelock tugged. Mr Grub, you have a heart of gold, sir. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2015, 02:00:42 pm »

Ceremonial tea drinking ceremony after the installation of the cross. Proper job.
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2015, 04:11:11 pm »

Right, that's it, Tea was mentioned and only minimal veiwing stats.

I hereby vote Tactile.

If ever there was a worthy cause for a move, this is it my friends.

Huh
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2015, 05:35:31 pm »

Right, that's it, Tea was mentioned and only minimal veiwing stats.

I hereby vote Tactile.

If ever there was a worthy cause for a move, this is it my friends.

Huh

Agreed.
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selectedgrub
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2015, 05:56:50 am »

Did someone mention tea?
Yes please.

Thanks for the kind post SeVeNeVeS

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12 out of the 66 councils country wide are being hassled to do it.
Sadly this is one of them
A petition was launched in 2014.
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selectedgrub
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2015, 06:53:58 pm »

Base.
Something to anchor it to the ground.


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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2015, 09:26:43 pm »

been stalking this post for a while, my vocabulary fails to express how much I respect what you are doing.
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2015, 06:23:00 am »

Thanks.


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