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Author Topic: Krakens, really!  (Read 1039 times)
Sir Henry
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« on: June 23, 2015, 08:00:58 am »

The BBC news site has an article on the need that humans have for the giant kraken: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33226376

The 21st century has been extremely productive in terms of kraken discoveries, apparently. I didn't know that there was a complete one (called Archie) in the Natural History Museum in London.

Or that one had given a TED talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/edith_widder_how_we_found_the_giant_squid?language=en#t-341554

I can only assume that the air kraken will be next to finally be brought to light. Can't wait. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2015, 01:02:11 pm »

Everybody loves a kraken, except of course the sailor being eaten by one.

Some images from the article:




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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2015, 08:06:14 pm »

Moderators, here is another one I would put up for reconsideration regarding its location within this forum, due to the prevalence of "kraken" in the iconography of Steampunk. "Metaphysical", perhaps?
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2015, 10:24:12 pm »

While the kraken is steampunk, this is a discussion about the current giant squid, and so could be considered non-steampunk. Unsure whether it should be moved, so I'll leave it here for now.
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2015, 10:57:48 pm »

While the kraken is steampunk, this is a discussion about the current giant squid, and so could be considered non-steampunk. Unsure whether it should be moved, so I'll leave it here for now.
The first article linked in the opening post contains a section about why humans needs mythical monsters*, which was why I thought it was relevant. I may be wrong (I often am), so please move it to wherever you feel best**.

*Every culture needs one or more to embody the fear of the unknown or reinforce taboos, it's just that ours eats ships (naval or air) rather than the more usual fare, inquisitive children.

**Except Facebook/Twitter/Reddit which are my personal mythical monsters. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2015, 01:28:39 am »

Once I've had time to resettle (I had to step out for a few hours), I will return to renew the discussion.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2015, 11:40:13 am »

The Natural History Museums kraken Archie is central to China Mieville's book Kraken.

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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2015, 03:04:11 pm »

I r4ecently read an article (on a not very trustworthy site but okay) that we know so little of what hides in the depths of our oceans, that it is likely for huge kraken to exist.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2015, 04:42:05 am »

Precedent has been established for including discussions of real-world creatures within the Steampunk context.

See:
"What is the Link Between Victorians and Squid?"
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,44251.0.html

"Giant Squid Washes Ashore"
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,41361.0.html

"Critters!"
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,39535.0.html

(Please note that I only searched back 1000 days, so there are likely more threads.)

I will recommend to the Mods that this topic either be moved to "Metaphysical", or at least merged into an existing thread.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2015, 08:15:00 am »

Then of course there's Jormungandr, the World Serpent of Norse Mythology (not to be confused with Jormungand, an Anime monster).
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/297/8/8/jormungandr_by_abadea-d46yzxi.jpg

Might even give a Giant Kraken pause for thought.

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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2015, 03:40:41 am »

Giant Squid Filmed by Russian Sailors
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2015, 07:28:20 am »

Are we sure that's not a colossal (Mesonychoteuthis hamiltoni) rather than a giant (Architeuthis dux)? That mantle looks awfully fat to me.
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2015, 08:50:57 am »



New Zealand waters are a veritable Kraken lair - could  it be why there  is so much myth and mystery shrouding  who by  and when  New Zealand was discovered-

http://squid.tepapa.govt.nz/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_squid

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11448531

GIANT SQUID found! (50-foot-long, washed-up on beach, Punakaiki, New Zealand, March 1st 20
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2015, 03:42:38 pm »

Someone discovered a 4 meter mass of eggs from flying squids near Turkey.

http://www.deepseanews.com/2015/07/car-sized-ball-of-squid-eggs-filmed-off-the-coast-of-turkey/

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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2015, 04:40:18 am »

A bad rap:


http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=253

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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2015, 04:39:13 pm »


New Zealand waters are a veritable Kraken lair - could  it be why there  is so much myth and mystery shrouding  who by  and when  New Zealand was discovered-


My wife and I watched the live stream of the squid necropsy that the Te Papa Tongarewa Museum did a year or two ago. It was fascinating.
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2015, 02:59:49 am »

Well, there's always the Golf Kraken

https://www.youtube.com/embed/QCCVbClAMtI

rather takes the scottish game to a new level...
what do you suppose would be "enough club" ?

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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2015, 03:18:18 am »

Thank you for that one I sent it on to my husband the golfer.
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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2015, 05:07:06 am »

New Zealand indeed has a glorious history of krakens.  Shortly after the colossal squid mentioned above by Mr Shale was placed on display at Te Papa, Leonard Cohen passed through Wellington on tour and was taken to see the wee beastie.  At his show later he mentioned this, and claimed 'It's not dead.  It's just lying there.  It wants to get out ...'.

On a more personal note, myself and Mrs. Hudson (the younger) this year introduced the audience of the fashion show at the Steampunk NZ Festival in Oamaru to tea krakens.  The young of these mysterious creatures are the only known pollinators of the tea plant (Camellia sinensis) and, due to some very dark nights during the mating season, the tea crop was in jeopardy as the adult tea krakens had been unable to find each other.  Mrs. Hudson and the Colonel were dispatched to Darjeeling by the Royal Society (at her Majesty's insistence, mind you) to bring back a breeding pair.  For Science.

The mission was a complete success.  Here we are, with the male tea kraken riding on Mrs. Hudson's arm (the left, in case you were confused):

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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2015, 07:34:20 am »

Well, there's always the Golf Kraken

https://www.youtube.com/embed/QCCVbClAMtI

rather takes the scottish game to a new level...
what do you suppose would be "enough club" ?

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