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Kitty Le Roy
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Hi!
« on: June 20, 2015, 09:22:12 pm »

Hi - I'm Jo, I'm new and this is my website: www.kitty-le-roy.co.uk
As a wild west enthusiast and also keen on steampunk, I thought it might be a good idea to combine the two, so I'm currently researching the genre and events. Hope to speak to folks soon.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2015, 09:38:56 pm »

Hello, Ms. Le Roy welcome to the forum.  You might want to enlist the help from our Colony members with regard to the Western or Weird West genre...
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2015, 11:32:34 pm »

Hi - I'm Jo, I'm new and this is my website: www.kitty-le-roy.co.uk
As a wild west enthusiast and also keen on steampunk, I thought it might be a good idea to combine the two, so I'm currently researching the genre and events. Hope to speak to folks soon.


Dear Ms Le Roy,
I do like your website; I think your alter-ego will fit well into the Steampunk zeitgeist. I can see how a western interest would work well in Hampshire; lovely county. As part of your interest do you do any horse-riding in the New Forest? You probably will not need to add to much to Steampunk your apparel, although may need to source a nerf-firing Winchester Roll Eyes I have to agree having a sturdy knife around can be useful, although I my case it's to dig one of my arrows out of a poor innocent tree when I miss the target...

Yours,
Miranda.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 12:13:26 am »

You just got to get yourself a moonshine still - Just think of all that polished copper & brass, plus the whiskey coming out of the other end
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2015, 10:20:43 am »

Greetings Kitty.

I don't know if you 'do' Facebook. Some don't I understand.  Wink

But if you do....


https://www.facebook.com/groups/623009364405977
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2015, 08:02:03 pm »

You know what, Ms. Le Roy?  It doesn't hurt to compliment your Wild West characters with a bit of background history.  Being not a Native Texas, but at least a long-term Texan by way of a 20+ year residence in this your local City of Austin, I can tell you that there is plenty of imagery and history to aid in the polishing of your character.

I'm guessing your character is hanging around former "rebels," during the Reconstruction (Post Civil War) and Indian Wars (1890s).  Probably just before the Gilded Age, noting the last quarter of the 19th C was the time when the United Stated made is last expansion stretch and faced no foreign adversaries all the way to Barbary Coast of California, thus giving way for "wild ones" to emerge - this applies to both men and women. All the famous / infamous characters who made the myth of the Wild West lived during this period ("Wild Bill Hickok," General George Armstrong Custer, Doc Holiday, etc.).  It was the setting during which large tracts of territory in the "Mid West" had not been incorporated yet as States into the Union (and thus the reason for the lawlessness), such as the states of Kansas and Nebraska.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_Territory

So we are to assume this British-Texan transplanted character is moving about North and West of Texas, yes?

The reason being  that Texas would have already been a Mexican territory(1821-1836), an independent country (Republic of Texas 1836-1846), a Union State (1946-1860), a Confederate State (1861-1865), etcetera, yes?  In other words Texas was far too "developed" as a region and would actually have been "constraining" for a truly wild Frontier type character. So it is more likely that the character would be moving in unincorporated territories in the Mid-West and Far West.

Perhaps the truly "Wild West part of Texas would have been the commercial "Cattle Drives from Texas through Kansas.

Texas Time Line

French Texas        1684–1689
Spanish Texas     1690–1821
Mexican Texas     1821–1836
Republic of Texas  1836–1845
Union Statehood   1845–1860
Confederate State 1861–1865
Reconstruction     1865–1899
Union Statehood   1899-Present

Cattle would have been the main industry and there are some interesting circumstances where this industry would have touched your character.

I'm quite sure Ms. Kitty Le Roy would have walked down the lobby of the Driskill Hotel in Austin, perhaps upon arrival from England -or perhaps after doing business with some wealthy Cattle Baron, before heading out again to the Kansas Territory?

The cattle drive industry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_drives_in_the_United_States

How the cattle industry's money showed up "back home in Texas"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driskill_Hotel
http://www.driskillhotel.com/

And what about Sally Skull? She's Texan, right?  Although not contemporary (she belongs to the first half of the 19th. C) perhaps Ms. Kitty Le Roy meets her long after or one of her relatives? Legend has it she disappeared after the Civil War.

http://www.tamu.edu/faculty/ccbn/dewitt/skulllegend.htm

You can surround yourself with fictitious (or real characters) if you know how to "make them."

A Texan character would likely have a distinct identity separate from other white Frontiersmen/women, based on history and origin, and probably still be carrying the "psychological baggage" of the Civil War Period either in his / her own person, or by way of his/her parent's generation (depending on the age of the character).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Texas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Texas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_in_the_American_Civil_War

Also remember, there is a certain ethnography that changed in Texas throughout the periods.  You could give your surrounding "pardner" characters an ethnic identity, given that everyone in Texas "came from somewhere else" unless you are a Native American.

Texas started from small Spanish outposts among Natives in a very sparsely populated area, allowing for racial (Native+ Spanish) miscegenation, in the north of the Mexican Territory.  This allowed a very few wealthy Mexican families to establish themselves in a "Hacienda Economy" in San Antonio and other areas with a certain racial/ethnic dynamic).  This makes Texans slighly different from other Americans, in that there is a Spanish/Mexican cultural background mixed in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacienda

Then you have the American migration - upon the invitation by Mexican President Santa Anna (the biggest political snafu in history), which would set the grounds for the separation of Texas from Mexico into a new nation, The Republic of Texas, and later for the Mexican American War leading to the forced sale of a very large part of Mexican Territory to the United States.  And finally you have Texan incorporation in to the American Union proper.  Then the Civil War Period happens and after the Civil War you get massive migration from Germany and Middle European States, such that you end the 19th. C. with a Central Texas being dominated by German and Czech migrants, and naturally Mexicans, with a sprinkling of French and Scots Irish people left over from the early days...

Perhaps your "pardner" speaks, or even your own character learned a bit of "Texas German" dialect?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Texan

The local Texas German dialect (largely defunct now)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_German

Don't forget the African American influence and the effect of Slavery between the Republic of Texas period and the Civil War era period  (say between 1845-1865 when slavery would have developed). A large number of cowboys and ranch hands would have been of African origin!!!  Perhaps yopur character has a "trusty companion" of sorts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Juneteenth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_Texas

All these details can go into the "rounding and polishing" of your characters, and before you know it you have a real story to tell!

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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2015, 08:20:50 pm »

Very nice post.   Don't forget the cowboys of Florida.  We did everything the west did including Indian wars Rodeos and cattle drives, but about 10 years before it happened out west.

Cracker cowboys have a rich history.

And it continues.  I know, since some of my best friends are cowboys here in Florida.
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2015, 05:16:57 am »

Welcome aboard good lady, please make use of the handrails until you fully develop your 'air-legs' !
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2015, 11:38:22 am »

Hello! I see you have a picture of Calamity Jane, I was always a fan of her brothers:

Cataclysm Trevor and Apocalypse Bob.

Wild west works with steam. I think they called it wild wild west.
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