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Question: IF YOU OPERATED YOUR OWN STEAMPUNK VACATION EXPERIENCE: would it be
SMALL QUAINT HOTEL/INN - 0 (0%)
GRAND HOTEL - 0 (0%)
COTTAGE - 1 (4%)
COUNTRY ESTATE - 1 (4%)
CASTLE - 1 (4%)
HAUNTED MANSION - 1 (4%)
PADDLE STEAMER - 0 (0%)
SAILING SHIP - 1 (4%)
SUBMARINE - 1 (4%)
COASTAL FORT - 0 (0%)
PRIVATE ISLAND - 2 (8%)
SAFARI GAME PARK - 2 (8%)
FUN PARK RESORT - 1 (4%)
SPACE ORBIT - 1 (4%)
MOON BASE - 0 (0%)
CRAFTING WORKSHOP - 1 (4%)
RAIL JOURNEY - 4 (16%)
ZEPPELIN VOYAGE - 6 (24%)
OTHER - 2 (8%)
Total Voters: 23

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Hurricane Annie
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« on: December 13, 2014, 11:25:32 pm »

If you had financial backing  and a plan to build or  develop your ultimate  Steampunk Vacation Operation  ; what would you do? Which way would you go?

Would you want small and intimate or pull out all the  stops?

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2014, 11:47:25 pm »

Lots of possible choices to dream about.
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Hurricane Annie
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2014, 11:58:36 pm »

Lots of possible choices to dream about.

 I  haven't been able to make up my mind either.

 I tend towards the castle or safari

 But that is just me.

 The coastal fort  installation could have possibilities  too
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2014, 12:37:08 am »

I will go for a Lazer Tag meet Larping meet Dickens World steampunk theme park.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2014, 01:06:44 am »

I will go for a Lazer Tag meet Larping meet Dickensland steampunk theme park.

 That sounds intriguing

 Tell us more!
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2014, 01:27:23 am »

I will go for a Lazer Tag meet Larping meet Dickensland steampunk theme park.


 That sounds intriguing

 Tell us more!


Pretty much a fusion of this four with steamier monsters
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxbS8oN6I

http://www.horrorcamplive.co.uk/
http://www.dickensworld.co.uk/
http://www.magiquest.com/
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Arabella Periscope
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2014, 02:12:40 am »



It is too cruel of you to make us choose.  I am starting now to dream of a composite of your list; 'Around the World in Eighty Days, the Ultimate Steampunk Vacation Experience'  -- beginning at the St. Pancras Railway Hotel and going on from there via Orient Express, Grand Hotels, Airship, Balloon, Land Yacht, Biplane,Horse, Camel, Elephant, Nile Steamer, etc., etc., etc. and after the eighty days, beginning again . . . . but always in a civilized manner, and within reach of a good cup of tea.
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Hurricane Annie
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2014, 02:24:20 am »

  CHICAR

 That could work well for the risk takers and  adrenalin junkies

  like  a steampunk Helltown  with a military take over twist.

http://ohioforgotten.drewborg.com/hauntings/helltown/


 Or the Salton Sea and  Slab City .
http://lostamerica.com/photo-items/the-salton-sea/

http://saltonseamuseum.org/salton_sea_history.html

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2105597,00.html

http://articles.ivpressonline.com/2011-12-31/slab-city_30577918





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Hurricane Annie
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2014, 02:26:14 am »



It is too cruel of you to make us choose.  I am starting now to dream of a composite of your list; 'Around the World in Eighty Days, the Ultimate Steampunk Vacation Experience'  -- beginning at the St. Pancras Railway Hotel and going on from there via Orient Express, Grand Hotels, Airship, Balloon, Land Yacht, Biplane,Horse, Camel, Elephant, Nile Steamer, etc., etc., etc. and after the eighty days, beginning again . . . . but always in a civilized manner, and within reach of a good cup of tea.



 That sounds delightful  and exotic.  Very much at the luxury end of travel.
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Arabella Periscope
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2014, 02:30:28 am »

Dear H. Annie,

Economy is for everyday life in this modern wasteland; the Steampunk world is of the imagination, why pinch pennies???
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2014, 02:39:38 am »

A country estate with buildings and rooms for different purposes. Allow guests/residents to wander around but puzzles must be completed to enter the inner sanctums of some places. Night shows/tours could be arranged with guest performances.

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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2014, 03:01:44 am »

Dear H. Annie,

Economy is for everyday life in this modern wasteland; the Steampunk world is of the imagination, why pinch pennies???

 Yes . Dear Arabella . Everything in the imagination is limitless.
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Hurricane Annie
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2014, 03:02:44 am »

A country estate with buildings and rooms for different purposes. Allow guests/residents to wander around but puzzles must be completed to enter the inner sanctums of some places. Night shows/tours could be arranged with guest performances.

Sorontar

 Would the entrance be in the guise of a Rabbit Warren?
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VampirateMace
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2014, 03:50:13 am »

I must be pretty easy vacation wise, because that all sounds good to me. - Man, I'd love to do some LARP...
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2014, 09:53:25 am »

Most definitely a rail excursion on a most luxuriously appointed train, but to call such simply a train is to call the Moon nothing more than a featureless vague light in the evening sky.

Said iron beastie would be of a gauge three, perhaps four times the norm to facilitate grand staterooms, more suites than simple Pullman compartments.

As much would the amenities be the draw as would where this magnificent conveyance would travel, it's tracks truly encircling the surface of the Earth as we know it and the underground passages simply spectacular.

And yes, I know that much describes the great train in the film Snowpiercer.
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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2014, 05:13:13 pm »

Most are good suggestions.  Possibly the best plan would be an adventure combining several of these.  http://essexsteamtrain.com/

The premier SP event to date has been http://www.thesteampunkempire.com/events/3rd-annual-steampunk-cruise but this might be the last year. 

Has anyone visited this park?  http://www.evermorepark.com/ever/index.php
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2014, 05:56:52 pm »

Would have to be in a castle because we have so many that need rebuilding and preserving!
However, the SP elements would have to be subtle.
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2014, 09:28:07 pm »

Robert Louis Stevenson is a good guide when it comes to travel. He wrote Dr.Jekyll and Mr Hyde, a Victorian fantasy, so I think he embodies steampunk spirit even though we might not recognise him as a steampunk author like Verne or Wells. He wrote about travel and a couple of things he said were "For my part, I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel's sake. The great affair is to move." and "for to travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive".

So, my ideal steampunk vacation would be to travel on a steam train in the style of the Orient Express of old. The lifestyle onboard would be essentially steampunk - you know, splendid fashion, excellent teas and wi-fi! There would be various itineraries - travelling between different locations with steampunk values or connotations. My favourite travel experiences would be a tour visiting European Art Nouveau cities, another tour travelling through India visiting the classic steampunk evocative locations like the Hill railways, Shimla, Lahore, maybe with a Kim theme? How about a Wild Wild West tour across the northwest USA visiting great trestles and tunnels in the Rockies, great C19th cities, an on-board casino and so on.

An alternative could be the paddle-steamer river trip. A river cruise would suit the steampunk theme really well, as the floating hotel is pretty SP before you start and you take the hotel with you from place to place! Maybe even a joint rail / paddle steamer combination holiday?

Although I am a big fan of airships, the big luxurious airships needed to capture the sense of steampunk Grande Style like the Graf Zeppelin or Hindenberg are really very dieselpunk and the early airships that could be described as SP are really too small to do proper vacationing.

I think one of the problems is - what do steampunks do when they get together so that an entertainment programme could be established that would provide enrichment of the journey. How about:
  • making the perfect cup of tea demonstration
  • steampunk murder mystery RP
  • steampunk musical recitals / gigs
  • leatherworking course - say two hours a day over several days
any other ideas??

 
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2014, 01:52:30 am »

Robert Louis Stevenson is a good guide when it comes to travel. He wrote Dr.Jekyll and Mr Hyde, a Victorian fantasy, so I think he embodies steampunk spirit even though we might not recognise him as a steampunk author like Verne or Wells. He wrote about travel and a couple of things he said were "For my part, I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel's sake. The great affair is to move." and "for to travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive".

So, my ideal steampunk vacation would be to travel on a steam train in the style of the Orient Express of old. The lifestyle onboard would be essentially steampunk - you know, splendid fashion, excellent teas and wi-fi! There would be various itineraries - travelling between different locations with steampunk values or connotations. My favourite travel experiences would be a tour visiting European Art Nouveau cities, another tour travelling through India visiting the classic steampunk evocative locations like the Hill railways, Shimla, Lahore, maybe with a Kim theme? How about a Wild Wild West tour across the northwest USA visiting great trestles and tunnels in the Rockies, great C19th cities, an on-board casino and so on.

An alternative could be the paddle-steamer river trip. A river cruise would suit the steampunk theme really well, as the floating hotel is pretty SP before you start and you take the hotel with you from place to place! Maybe even a joint rail / paddle steamer combination holiday?

Although I am a big fan of airships, the big luxurious airships needed to capture the sense of steampunk Grande Style like the Graf Zeppelin or Hindenberg are really very dieselpunk and the early airships that could be described as SP are really too small to do proper vacationing.

I think one of the problems is - what do steampunks do when they get together so that an entertainment programme could be established that would provide enrichment of the journey. How about:
  • making the perfect cup of tea demonstration
  • steampunk murder mystery RP
  • steampunk musical recitals / gigs
  • leatherworking course - say two hours a day over several days
any other ideas??
 


There are still some impressive (if not cheap) train excursions like:  http://www.belmond.com/venice-simplon-orient-express/  or http://www.thesteampunkempire.com/group/railfanforum/forum/topics/working-railroads

A dirigible cruise over the subarctic or Amazon would be grand but a riverboat cruise would be slightly more realistic.  I went on the first SteamPunk Cruise under duress but these cruises have spoiled me.  They are the ideal environment for socializing, classes, eating, touring, concerts, and gaming. (except for the insanely strict no weapons policy that even prohibits morning fencing!)  A SP themed cruise on the American Queen could be amazing but probably out of most folks' budgets.  http://www.thesteampunkempire.com/group/riverboats/forum/topics/american-empress-american-queen 

Regardless of the vehicle, it would be a shame to not see SP grow out of the "convention motel" model. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2014, 06:49:52 am »

Regardless of the vehicle, it would be a shame to not see SP grow out of the "convention motel" model. 

Thanks for the amazing shots of the American Queen - that is maybe one to be put on the bucket list! There is tremendous potential already in the travel industry - we have been with Great Rail Journeys a couple of times and they have the destinations and logistics worked out - just not the style! (although check out India's Palace on Wheels)

Learned a new word too - antebellum - thanks Captain!

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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2014, 07:15:29 pm »

Regardless of the vehicle, it would be a shame to not see SP grow out of the "convention motel" model. 


Thanks for the amazing shots of the American Queen - that is maybe one to be put on the bucket list! There is tremendous potential already in the travel industry - we have been with Great Rail Journeys a couple of times and they have the destinations and logistics worked out - just not the style! (although check out India's Palace on Wheels)

Learned a new word too - antebellum - thanks Captain!



The Palace on Wheels looks amazing and I had to add it to this SP RR list:  http://www.thesteampunkempire.com/group/railfanforum/forum/topics/working-railroads?commentId=2442691%3AComment%3A1834297&groupId=2442691%3AGroup%3A366742   There are some great RRs left to raid in SP. 

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« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2014, 08:46:57 pm »

Robert Louis Stevenson is a good guide when it comes to travel. He wrote Dr.Jekyll and Mr Hyde, a Victorian fantasy, so I think he embodies steampunk spirit even though we might not recognise him as a steampunk author like Verne or Wells. He wrote about travel and a couple of things he said were "For my part, I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel's sake. The great affair is to move." and "for to travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive".

So, my ideal steampunk vacation would be to travel on a steam train in the style of the Orient Express of old. The lifestyle onboard would be essentially steampunk - you know, splendid fashion, excellent teas and wi-fi! There would be various itineraries - travelling between different locations with steampunk values or connotations. My favourite travel experiences would be a tour visiting European Art Nouveau cities, another tour travelling through India visiting the classic steampunk evocative locations like the Hill railways, Shimla, Lahore, maybe with a Kim theme? How about a Wild Wild West tour across the northwest USA visiting great trestles and tunnels in the Rockies, great C19th cities, an on-board casino and so on.

An alternative could be the paddle-steamer river trip. A river cruise would suit the steampunk theme really well, as the floating hotel is pretty SP before you start and you take the hotel with you from place to place! Maybe even a joint rail / paddle steamer combination holiday?

Although I am a big fan of airships, the big luxurious airships needed to capture the sense of steampunk Grande Style like the Graf Zeppelin or Hindenberg are really very dieselpunk and the early airships that could be described as SP are really too small to do proper vacationing.

I think one of the problems is - what do steampunks do when they get together so that an entertainment programme could be established that would provide enrichment of the journey. How about:
  • making the perfect cup of tea demonstration
  • steampunk murder mystery RP
  • steampunk musical recitals / gigs
  • leatherworking course - say two hours a day over several days
any other ideas??

 


There is a Robert Louis Stevenson Museum in Apia, Samoa. It is  in the  his former home Vailima. In the late 1880s Stevenson took  cruises down through the Pacific Islands before he settled in Samoa.  It could be interesting to recreate these cruises  from Hawaii down to the southern end of the Pacific.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Louis_Stevenson

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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2014, 01:06:14 am »

Hurricane Annie, living on the east coast I have sailed quite a bit in earlier years and for some of that time it was in catamarans. I always imagined my ideal voyage and what kind of vessel (always out of my price range) would be the ideal type. But cats are strange beasts and I used to wonder - what does a classic cat look like? The best I could get from the editor of Classic Boat magazine was a Wharram cat but to me they just look like a load of plywood sheets nailed together and because so many are homemade they somehow don't 'feel' classic even though nothing else 'looks' quite so classic. So, in a similar vein I ask what would a steampunk catamaran look like - Wharram?? Or should it be based more on the early CSK designs (Choy/Seaman/Kumalae) or maybe the Nat Herreshoff design Amarylis - at least that was built in the Victorian era! (not really ocean trekking stuff though...)

I love the idea of taking the genuine polynesian boat and bringing it forward into a steampunk design but I suspect I will just end up with a Wharram lookalike with all the pain that would entail!

However, yes, or should that be YES! fabulous idea to sail south to Nuku Hiva - oh, in my dreams tonight!


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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2014, 01:27:42 am »

Hurricane Annie, living on the east coast I have sailed quite a bit in earlier years and for some of that time it was in catamarans. I always imagined my ideal voyage and what kind of vessel (always out of my price range) would be the ideal type. But cats are strange beasts and I used to wonder - what does a classic cat look like? The best I could get from the editor of Classic Boat magazine was a Wharram cat but to me they just look like a load of plywood sheets nailed together and because so many are homemade they somehow don't 'feel' classic even though nothing else 'looks' quite so classic. So, in a similar vein I ask what would a steampunk catamaran look like - Wharram?? Or should it be based more on the early CSK designs (Choy/Seaman/Kumalae) or maybe the Nat Herreshoff design Amarylis - at least that was built in the Victorian era! (not really ocean trekking stuff though...)

I love the idea of taking the genuine polynesian boat and bringing it forward into a steampunk design but I suspect I will just end up with a Wharram lookalike with all the pain that would entail!

However, yes, or should that be YES! fabulous idea to sail south to Nuku Hiva - oh, in my dreams tonight!





 Had a look through vintage catamarans,  New Zealand on google and found this vintage steam tug boat excursion. Which has no relevance other than  vintage craft in New Zealand  often had and still has a polynesian / Pacific  flavour and influence so I looked under that for  something resembling  that which you have a hankering for. Try also "Tri - maran"

http://www.deckedoutyachting.co.nz/listing/william-c-daldy-charter-boat-38m-vintage-steam-tug



http://en.nauticwebnews.com/804/blue-planet-catamaran-is-the-worlds-first-32-electric-cat/



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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2014, 02:19:19 am »

First steam powered warship.


Demologos
A catamaran paddle steamer. c 1812
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/steam3.htm
Not my choice but thought you might be interested.
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