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« on: November 26, 2014, 03:41:00 pm »

Comments welcomed...do they need something more?
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2014, 06:46:53 pm »

So they blow up, start a fire, and then put the fire out. Grin
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2014, 06:55:08 pm »

So they blow up, start a fire, and then put the fire out. Grin

I see what you did there, Maets...sprinkled your comment with heady thoughts!
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2014, 07:34:08 pm »

They defiantly need some sort of pin me thinks.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 07:41:17 pm »

Sorry couldn't resist. Not a big fan of the door latch one. Agree that a pin is needed.
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 07:46:59 pm »

They defiantly need some sort of pin me thinks.
I wondered about that too, but envision the user turning a little "switch" (physically possible on the sprinkler head below the actual "sprayer"...not sure exactly what to call it) then tossing the grenade which explodes on impact (the switch makes the device "live").

someone else commented (elsewhere) that, given the incorporation of the sprinkler head, the device might contain a poisonous liquid (under pressure).  Once activated and tossed, the head atomizes and releases the poison, now in a gaseous form.  
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 07:48:14 pm »

Sorry couldn't resist. Not a big fan of the door latch one. Agree that a pin is needed.

I'm rethinking that one (door latch version) too, Maets...probably rushed the project with what I could find.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2014, 09:17:58 pm »

I like the poisonous gas concept for the grenades. 

Or how about this: First the spray a highly explosive gas and then explode the grenade and the gas.  The gas first has a chance to permeate various cracks and crevices, but is then ignited.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2014, 09:27:46 pm »

I like the poisonous gas concept for the grenades. 

Or how about this: First the spray a highly explosive gas and then explode the grenade and the gas.  The gas first has a chance to permeate various cracks and crevices, but is then ignited.
Hmmm...I LIKE the way you think!  bwahahaha!
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 10:16:33 pm »

Ha ha that was me in another form.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2014, 10:19:07 pm »

Out of curiosity, what is this other forum you are referring to?
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2014, 10:23:28 pm »

The steampunk gun club over on the book of face Maets.
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2014, 07:34:02 pm »


I like the concept but I think they do need a little something extra to fulfil the potential of the idea. 

The combination of the doorknob and the sprinkler head works well but I'm less sure about the extra components on both pieces, the one on the right is better but the cupboard latch looks like a cupboard latch and seems a bit out of place.

I would also like to see a bit more of a concistent finish. Either clean up the metal bits or dirty up the bulbs. Some matt olive green paint would give them a bit more of a feeling of an item of ammunition. And perhaps use a different colour on the stem of the doorknobs to break up what is quite a familiar shape. Even quite rough painting would work as you often see quite rough colour flashes on munitions to designate different types.
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2014, 11:26:57 pm »

I like the colour flash idea, as the rings on the neck of the doorknobs would lend themselves to this quite nicely. Different colours for different contents...

Also I agree with nice big rings for the pin, or perhaps a clockwork style key for a timer?

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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2014, 12:00:59 am »

for pins you can get packs of split pins and split rings from hardware stores of ebay for cheap, or scavenge them from scrap fire extinguishers  even if your concept calls for a complex detonating mechanism a pin makes sense as a safety device and is a universal visual cue for a 'hand grenade'
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2014, 10:17:34 am »

Just my two pence tossed in but here goes.....

I agree with the consensus about the possible addition of a 'safety' pin as found in modern munitions but this instance calls for a definite bit of mechanical animation-motion to the device.

Might it be possible to cobble in a sort of key-wound mechanism, think small-geared music-box type as the arming-timing components ?

A truly twisted mind might actually have said detonator play a brief tune before going boomsie.
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2014, 01:39:43 pm »

Pop goes the weasel is a common tune.
If you can find a jack in the box the parts may work.
A torsion spring of some type may work to drive the music box.
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2014, 02:59:28 pm »

Love the idea of Mexican stand off Grenades, the watch from 'For a few dollars more' comes to mind.

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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2014, 06:29:26 pm »

But grenades with pins came in after 1914, and for a most of WW1 there were other designs in use, some of which look strange now.
Possibilities range from something like the 'butterfly bomb' to a key with a pointer on the top of the sprinkler to set how long the clockwork fuse runs before it explodes (rather like setting the fuse on an artillery shell.
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2014, 03:02:13 am »

for pins you can get packs of split pins and split rings from hardware stores of ebay for cheap, or scavenge them from scrap fire extinguishers  even if your concept calls for a complex detonating mechanism a pin makes sense as a safety device and is a universal visual cue for a 'hand grenade'

If you would like some fire extinguisher pins, I would be happy to send you some.  No charge, I throw away a lot of them. Just PM me your address.
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2014, 11:44:00 pm »

what is the body of the grenade made of?
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2014, 01:19:03 am »

Mailed off a few pins today.
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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2014, 04:27:17 pm »

what is the body of the grenade made of?

I think those are doorknobs...
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2014, 04:42:10 pm »

what is the body of the grenade made of?

I think those are doorknobs...

Nope, not doorknobs...they are finials (ends) from a curtain rod.  The rods themselves will be nice, heavy, LOOOOONG barrels for some future rifles.   
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2014, 11:57:12 am »

Domestic interior hardware does often provide much opportunity for prop fabrication, myself I frequently find drawer pulls and other cabinetry embellishments most versatile.

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