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Author Topic: A series of Tubes  (Read 4501 times)
Tel Janin
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« on: March 08, 2007, 02:00:48 am »

It's been suggested before that the internet can be metaphorically seen as a series of tubes. But what if it really were a series of tubes? Carrying information in the form of pressure variances in the steam or utilizing the increased speed of sound through liquid.

If you had to design the intertubes, how would yo go about it?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2007, 03:02:11 am »

Actually, there is some historical precedent for delivering and exchanging information via tubes.
Wikipedia: Pneumatic tubes
If this was combined in some way with microfiche or microfilm or possibly micropunch cards, and a highly advanced mechanical reader/writer for the same media was a terminal at any end of the tubes...

You know Tel Janin, you just might be onto something...
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2007, 04:12:09 am »

How I dearly love the term 'intertubes'. <3
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2007, 04:16:24 am »

I like it! What if the shuttles themselves were covered in machine-manipulatable switches or "bits"? When the shuttle arrives at its destination, it would click into a port on the analytic engine. Delicate fingers would read the position of the switches and change them, if necessary, before putting them into the appropriate tube to continue their journey... Any other ideas?

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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2007, 05:53:51 am »

Pneumatic tubes for delivery of messages have a long history, and were still actively-used in many older office buildings in New York City well into the 1980's (and still are used in drive-up bank teller installations)

One can easily envision gangs of "navigators" digging vast networks of pneumatic pipelines for the delivery of data instead of Gibson and Sterling's "Difference Engine Telegraphy", so very reliant on the Vagaries of Electricity
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2007, 09:50:41 am »

Where I work, I use a pneumatic tube station constantly.  There are two tube stations in my department, and we use them to send documents, samples, etc.  We're frequently using e-mail to send requests for stuff that arrives via tube, which seems somehow to be the reverse of the expected order. 

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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2007, 11:17:10 am »

Some were big enough for people.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2007, 11:37:47 am »

Pornography is the mother of invention, I always say.

If you can find a way to transport porn and stolen music on this "PneumaNet", I think it might catch on.

Egads, could you imagine the spam though?! Piles and piles of useless tube shuttles everywhere!
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2007, 01:46:40 pm »

"oh great..." *pulls out container* "more spam!", *throws on a pile of papers 50 feet tall*

As far as pneumatics...I've posted this link a bunch...but apparently here in NYC where I live, and a few other places, some gents thought it would be a fine idea for transport...it never passed though, and the plan was abandoned...

http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beach/

Also, I spend alot of time here in government buildings, and they still have the pneumatics in place from way back...It has an official US Post Office seal on them..and I assume were used to transport letters to various offices..But I just thought all of you who like pneumatics as much as I would like to know. Usually they seem to just paint over them, as I'm sure that they're part of the initial construction of the building.
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2007, 06:26:05 pm »

Possibly more diesel than steam, but there is a wonderful scene of a pneumatic  "intertube router" - a gentleman (if memory serves, in a waistcoat and green eyeshade) seated at a bank of brass tubes, in the film "The Shadow"
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2007, 05:39:11 am »

Possibly more diesel than steam, but there is a wonderful scene of a pneumatic  "intertube router" - a gentleman (if memory serves, in a waistcoat and green eyeshade) seated at a bank of brass tubes, in the film "The Shadow"

I'm reminded of the Futurama episode when Hermes has to sort through all the piles of canisters to find Bender's personality.  I've actually always wanted one of the Vacuum tube systems they have at banks.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2007, 07:38:25 am »

Pornography is the mother of invention, I always say.

If you can find a way to transport porn and stolen music on this "PneumaNet", I think it might catch on.

Egads, could you imagine the spam though?! Piles and piles of useless tube shuttles everywhere!
this was one of the greatist things I have ever read.

I love the idea of pneumatic tube travel, and is one of the reasons the jetsons irks me now (other reason: I want my flying car that turns into a suitcase!), tube travel would make overseas travel more barable to me, I'd rather be somewhere underwater, than several thousand feet in the air going hundreds of miles per hour.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2007, 09:18:57 am »

tube travel would make overseas travel more barable to me, I'd rather be somewhere underwater, than several thousand feet in the air going hundreds of miles per hour.

I think you just gave me my first real bout of claustrophobia.  Had in my head a picture of me in a tub similar to the jetsons 20'000 leagues under the sea slowly moving along... I'd rather be in an airship Wink
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2007, 08:40:12 am »

There was a Russian Prince who predicted the existance of blogs back in the 1800's or so, though he gave a date of some tens of thousands of years into the future.

If memory serves, he described a magnetic wave broadcasted from the house, which described the goings on. "The Master will be in Paris until the 24th" and so on. However, the actual updates would be done by a senior servant, rather than the head of the household.

Hang on, lemme google . . . ah. Here we go.

http://www.mosnews.com/feature/2005/10/10/bloggingpredicted.shtml
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2007, 03:22:00 pm »

Pornography is the mother of invention, I always say.

If you can find a way to transport porn and stolen music on this "PneumaNet", I think it might catch on.

Egads, could you imagine the spam though?! Piles and piles of useless tube shuttles everywhere!
this was one of the greatist things I have ever read.


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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2007, 07:01:36 pm »

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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2007, 08:51:06 pm »




Heh.

Incidentally, are you the same Marcus Rowland from FF.net?
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2007, 09:32:17 pm »

Marcus, you've inspired me...

Put this on my blog, with a link back to the forum... maybe find a few more of those lost steampunks, eh?
Feel free to distribute, but please give my blog a linkback.
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2007, 10:05:44 pm »

I must say that is one of the best quick drawings I've seen in a while.

The idea is quite impressive as well.

Well done.
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2007, 10:08:31 pm »

Thanks,
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2007, 11:59:12 pm »

I love it Smiley
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Marcus Rowland
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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2007, 04:19:35 pm »


Heh.

Incidentally, are you the same Marcus Rowland from FF.net?
Yup.
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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2007, 08:37:50 pm »


Heh.

Incidentally, are you the same Marcus Rowland from FF.net?
Yup.

Allow me a brief moment of what is coliquilly known as squeeing, sir. I am quite the fan.
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