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Author Topic: Steampunk gearing up for a wider audience?  (Read 984 times)
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« on: September 16, 2014, 10:09:27 pm »

I saw this article in Entertainment Weekly and thought people might be interested. The headline is 'Steampunk Gears up for a Wider Audience'.

I may be biased by the fact that it mentions my novel. But it also talks about other things. Smiley

 http://shelf-life.ew.com/2014/09/16/steampunk-surge-clockwork-dagger/

So what do you think - is steampunk gearing up for a wider audience?

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2014, 02:50:13 am »

Congrats!

I think it certainly can.  Most of the steampunk things I sell go to non steampunk people.  They just like the look, but brings them in a little closer.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2014, 02:37:57 pm »

I definately think steampunk is now firmly in the publics conscientiousness.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2014, 03:18:10 pm »

I was wandering around a large home furnishings store (they try to sell you all the things you never knew you needed in your home) and saw some rather Steampunk looking items which I loved, but made me cringe a bit because...really...it's not just for a Halloween prop! I may go back and rescue the little top hat candle holder...this was distributed by Yankee Candle, and I can't find them on their online shop, but I see them plastered all over the Bay of E.





All that to say...yes, I think it's hitting a wider audience. And I'm happy about that, but part of me wishes they'd learn to appreciate it for what it is, not just because it's "cool"...
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2014, 03:44:59 pm »

I think it is being found by a wider audience, and being trawled for new ideas by popular culture.

To suggest "gearing up" (apart from the horror of the pun) indicates there is a steampunk franchise factory somewhere ready to churn out things for people to buy and consume. This is of course not the case. Just lots and lots of quiet makers trying to make their way.

We are also starting to attract charlatans and carpetbaggers, (check the reaction to the "tea dueling book" on facebook if you require evidence of the fact).

Which is usually a sure fire indication of the worth of a perceived vehicle, from which the unscrupulous can profit. Thieves do not steal from sewerage treatment works. Therefore if theft is occurring, that which is being stolen must have a perceived value.

We are not gearing up, we are being noticed more. A state, in my humble opinion which is both a blessing and a curse. Popular culture is a fickle river, make your money whilst you can say I. Plenty of time to lord it later with lines like;

"I was there before it was popular and kept the faith when it all died down!"

We humans are a strange animal.



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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2014, 03:52:01 pm »

One thing in the article was the statement that steampunk was primarily a literature area.  To me it is primarily an art and craft area.  It is in the creation of objects that one would expect to see the wider audience as evidence by etsy and the posting of mskim.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2014, 06:18:21 pm »

I doubt in my 2year absence that the community has found an all encompassing definition of what SteamPunk is, but from a research point of view Steampunk does have literary roots. For those of us involved in the movement, we know that it is just one tendril of the cephalopod we call Steampink.
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2014, 07:12:00 pm »

What's "gearing up" is production of stock romance and paranormal novels in steampunk settings. The Harlequin Romance factory now has a steampunk line.
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2014, 11:06:27 pm »

I doubt in my 2year absence that the community has found an all encompassing definition of what SteamPunk is, but from a research point of view Steampunk does have literary roots. For those of us involved in the movement, we know that it is just one tendril of the cephalopod we call Steampink.

One which is subject to the misrepresentations of many a blind media man whom visits it's imposing form. A state fairly allegorical, in many ways.  

And may I just say. It is good to see the mouse, that always roars so eloquently!
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2014, 06:17:16 pm »

It is always nice, for ones ego, to know he's been remembered.

The Great Steampunk debate seems so long ago now.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2014, 08:40:12 am »

One thing in the article was the statement that steampunk was primarily a literature area.  To me it is primarily an art and craft area.  It is in the creation of objects that one would expect to see the wider audience as evidence by etsy and the posting of mskim.

From my experience, it started as arts and crafts then moved to the literary genre.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2014, 09:30:11 am »

One thing in the article was the statement that steampunk was primarily a literature area.  To me it is primarily an art and craft area.  It is in the creation of objects that one would expect to see the wider audience as evidence by etsy and the posting of mskim.

From my experience, it started as arts and crafts then moved to the literary genre.

The Name SteamPunk comes from a phrase used to describe William Gibson's book the Difference Engine, amd tnats where lazy journalist normally stop. However the styles and concepts we consider SteamPunk existed before hand.
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2014, 11:06:05 am »

Enjoying the Asylum in Lincoln the other weekend, it struck me yet again how diverse the people are who are drawn to our wonderful shared passion. To have something that attracts the very young up to the elderly with all generations in between is very unusual. It speaks of something profoundly healthy.

I would suggest three reasons for this breadth of appeal:

1) It is a community of really lovely people who feel safe in each other's company. Therefore it is automatically welcoming.

2) Steampunk is wildly fabulous. (Maybe I'm a tad biased here?)

3) It is the convergence point for people from many different interest areas, whether that be literature, artisanship, fashion, historical re-enactment, goth culture, table-top gaming, RPGs, computer games, art... etc. etc. The love of the aesthetic is shared. But from our different backgrounds, we find different ways to channel our creativity through it.

Not surprising that the word itself originated from people primarily concerned with words. As a writer, I'm perhaps guilty of thinking of it too much in terms of literature. That's why I defaulted to starting the thread on this section of the forum. But the point is well made that the name arrived to describe something that was already there.



 
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2014, 11:33:46 am »

Enjoying the Asylum in Lincoln the other weekend, it struck me yet again how diverse the people are who are drawn to our wonderful shared passion. To have something that attracts the very young up to the elderly with all generations in between is very unusual. It speaks of something profoundly healthy.

I would suggest three reasons for this breadth of appeal:

1) It is a community of really lovely people who feel safe in each other's company. Therefore it is automatically welcoming.

2) Steampunk is wildly fabulous. (Maybe I'm a tad biased here?)

3) It is the convergence point for people from many different interest areas, whether that be literature, artisanship, fashion, historical re-enactment, goth culture, table-top gaming, RPGs, computer games, art... etc. etc. The love of the aesthetic is shared. But from our different backgrounds, we find different ways to channel our creativity through it.

Not surprising that the word itself originated from people primarily concerned with words. As a writer, I'm perhaps guilty of thinking of it too much in terms of literature. That's why I defaulted to starting the thread on this section of the forum. But the point is well made that the name arrived to describe something that was already there.



 
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2014, 12:00:32 pm »

Good point! I left out many. Burlesque is another.

Isn't it wonderful - a convergence point for so many forms of creativity.

Someone just posted up a load of photos on FB from my Leicester book launch 2 days ago. They asked me what theme music I would put with the novel, because they wanted to make a slide show of the images. I was able to give a list of tracks without any trouble, because I wrote it with music in the background - to give a certain kind of atmosphere. This was the number one track:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNlMpwo0VR4

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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2014, 12:48:47 pm »

One thing in the article was the statement that steampunk was primarily a literature area.  To me it is primarily an art and craft area.  It is in the creation of objects that one would expect to see the wider audience as evidence by etsy and the posting of mskim.

From my experience, it started as arts and crafts then moved to the literary genre.

The Name SteamPunk comes from a phrase used to describe William Gibson's book the Difference Engine, amd tnats where lazy journalist normally stop. However the styles and concepts we consider SteamPunk existed before hand.


I didn't know of the books back then, I only found out about them after starting on my own book and doing research that led  to the age old argument.
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2014, 03:31:33 pm »

Oddly enough I've never read The Difference Engine, though read most of Gibsons other works.

I agree with the others, the most wonderous thing about steampunk is it all welcoming nature.
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2014, 05:40:00 pm »

It is always nice, for ones ego, to know he's been remembered.

The Great Steampunk debate seems so long ago now.

Yes, I miss some of the more overtly socialist early members too. I do remember Johnny Payphone offering to rip off my face and shove it up my ass (over PM). I always liked him. Very angry but scrupulously honest and truth be told I wasn't precisely easy to get on with at that point in my lustrous career either. Cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2014, 06:39:14 pm »

I remember him well.
There were those hoping steampunk would be a societity changing force, a way to break away from mass media and mass production. In a away I believe it is, but its more of a gentle boat ride of persuasion rather than the in your face revolution preferred by others.
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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2014, 07:39:06 pm »



The Name SteamPunk comes from a phrase used to describe William Gibson's book the Difference Engine, amd tnats where lazy journalist normally stop. However the styles and concepts we consider SteamPunk existed before hand.

Wasn'tthe phrase coined by KW Jeter, one of the early triumverate of steampunk authors which included J P Blaylock and Tim Powers, in a letter to his publisher as a term to describe their writing and referencing Cyberpunk.

I read "The Difference Engine" recently. there's 4 hours of my life I'll never see again. Like the curates egg it was good in parts. But not good enough and not in enough parts.

As for the appeal and inclusiveness of Steampunk, yes it has a broad appeal, I recently attended a local Punknic which included among others an author, an actor, and an artist and a number of others whose occupation is unknown to me. But we seemed to have such a variety of former occupations, interests and pastimes, especially among the *cough* older, members that there was much common ground without even metioning the like of Dr Who etc.
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2014, 10:37:17 pm »

I believe you are correct about Jeter being the one who came up with the word. Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2014, 01:37:44 am »

To suggest "gearing up" indicates there is a steampunk franchise factory somewhere ready to churn out things for people to buy and consume.

There is.




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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2014, 03:23:31 pm »

I remember him well.
There were those hoping steampunk would be a societity changing force, a way to break away from mass media and mass production. In a away I believe it is, but its more of a gentle boat ride of persuasion rather than the in your face revolution preferred by others.


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To suggest "gearing up" indicates there is a steampunk franchise factory somewhere ready to churn out things for people to buy and consume.

There is.




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