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Author Topic: A (Relatively Comprehensive) List of Modern Steampunk Novels; help requested  (Read 30042 times)
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« on: March 06, 2014, 07:10:10 pm »

I have pored through all 50 pages of the Textual board gleaning ideas, recommendations, and suggestions from the myriad posts regarding Steampunk reading material, and have finally compiled the list I'm detailing below.

I am requesting assistance, suggestions, feedback, etc. from the Brass Goggles community to make this as complete as possible.

Before we begin, allow me to explain what I'm trying to achieve. The vast scope of Steampunk literature has forced me to break this venture down into chunks. Therefore, this first list is only for modern (post-Verne, Wells, Doyle, Burroughs, et al) Steampunk novels and novellas which have been published traditionally (i.e., analog, physical ink and paper). Once I am satisfied that this list is as comprehensive as we can make it, I'll begin doing the same for short stories, collections, stories only existing electronically (whether online or as e-books), graphic novels, modern non-fiction, historical non-fiction, and then the "foundationals" (Verne, Wells, Doyle, Burroughs, et al)...if I'm still moderately sane by then.

(To give you an idea of just why I want to break this list down via the categories I've outlined above, I currently have approximately 314 novels/novellas by approximately 104 authors. And, based on my preliminary researches, this list will have been the easy one...)

The current list exists in Table format as a Word .doc (which apparently I'm unable to simply attach, so I'm going to make myself cross-eyed cutting and pasting back and forth), which I am more than happy to share with you if you send me a PM. However, please do not make additions/corrections to this document and re-post it. Instead, I'm asking that you, either through this thread or in a PM, submit your suggestions, clarifications, corrections, etc. so that I can make the appropriate changes to the original document. There is a space on the .doc for ISBN numbers, but as these are different depending on country and edition, I've left that blank.

My criteria:
1. Must be novel/novella length (see below).
2. Must be traditionally published.
3. Must be Steampunk (if you precede anything with the phrase, "Well, it's not really Steampunk, but...", don't bother).
4. All questions/comments regarding whether something is/is not Steampunk must be directed to me via PM. (This way the thread remains friendly, regardless what sort of sumbitch you call me privately. It is neither my wish nor intention for this thread to start another one of those "is/is not" flame wars, but I encourage civil, adult discussion in our PMs to each other.)

What I need from the Brass Goggles community:
1. Please recommend modern (post-Verne, Wells, Doyle, Burroughs, et al), traditionally-published Steampunk novels/novellas that do not appear on the list.
2. Please confirm or refute any of my assertions on series names.
3. Please confirm or refute any of my assertions that something does or does not constitute a series.
4. Please confirm or refute any of my assertions that a work within an otherwise non-Steampunk series is or is not Steampunk (in PM, please).
5. Please confirm or refute any of my assertions on whether or not something is a standalone work.
6. Please confirm or refute any of my assertions on whether or not something constitutes a novel/novella.
7. Please confirm or refute any of my assertions on whether or not something is only available electronically, as opposed to being, in addition, available via traditional publishing.
8. Please confirm or refute my inclusion of any single work and/or series in this list.

(Note on the above:  obviously, I don't need you to tell me where something's right; I need you to point out my errors.)

What constitutes a novel?
To codify this, I'm using the guidelines set forth by The World Science Fiction Society and The Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America in their criteria for awards categories for The Hugo and The Nebula, respectively. (Luckily, they are both the same.)
Novel:          40,000+ words
Novella:        17,500 – 40,000 words
Novelette:     500 – 17500 words
Short Story:  <7500 words

And now, without further ado (bear in mind that I may be required to do this in a few separate posts; I will point out when I'm done typing!) The List:

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Note:  The format for listings will be...
1. Author
2. Series Name
3. Novel/Novella(s)
4. Comments (if any)

Also, if you see a question mark, then I definitely need clarification.

1. Adams, Guy:
(series name?)
Sherlock Holmes:  The Army of Doctor Moreau
(only Steampunk book in series?)

2. Akers, Tim:
Eva Forge:
The Horns of Ruin
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

3. Akers, Tim:
The Burn Cycle:
Heart of Veridon
Dead of Veridon
Bones of Veridon


4. Anderson, Kevin J.:
(non-series)
Captain Nemo:  The Fantastic Adventures of a Dark Genius
The Martian War


5. Bacigalupi, Paolo:
(standalone)
The Windup Girl

6. Ballantine, Pip & Morris, Tee: 
The Ministry of Unusual Occurrences:
Phoenix Rising
The Janus Affair
Dawn’s Early Light


7. Baranowski, Don W.:
(standalone)
Sherlock Holmes:  The Adventure of the Frankenstein Monster

8. Barnes, John:
The Timeline Wars:
Washington’s Dirigible
(only Steampunk book in series?)
 
9. Baxter, Stephen:
(standalone)
Anti-Ice

10. Beats, Christopher:
The Magnocracy:
Cruel Numbers
Vacant Graves


11. Berry, Jedediah
(standalone)
The Manual of Detection

12. Blaylock, James:
Langdon St. Ives:
The Digging Leviathan
Homunculus
Lord Kelvin’s Machine
The Ebb Tide
The Affair of the Chalk Cliffs
Zeuglodon
The Aylesford Skull
The Pagan God


13. Bowditch, Eden Unger:
The Young Inventors’ Guild:
The Atomic Weight of Secrets
The Ravens of Solemano


14. Brook, Meljean:
The Iron Seas:
The Iron Duke
Heart of Steel
Riveted
The Kraken King and the…
…Scribbling Spinster
…Abominable Worm
…Fox’s Den
…Inevitable Abduction
…Iron Heart
…Crumbling Walls
…Empress’ Eyes
…Greatest Adventure


15. Brown, Tonia:
Railroad!:
Rodger Dodger
Dogs of War
The Trouble with Waxford
The Size of Things
Beauty of a Beast
Tempest in a Teapot
Questions Abound
Buffalo Gals

(e-books only?)

16. Buroker, Lindsay:
The Flash Gold Chronicles:
Flash Gold
Hunted
Peacemaker

(e-books only?)

17. Butcher, Jim:
The Cinder Spires:
The Aeronaut’s Windlass
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

18. Campbell, Alan:
The Deepgate Codex:
Lye Street
Scar Night
Iron Angel
God of Clocks


19. Carriger, Gail: 
The Parasol Protectorate:
Soulless
Changeless
Blameless
Heartless
Timeless


20. Carriger, Gail: 
Finishing School:
Etiquette and Espionage
Curtsies and Conspiracies
Waistcoats and Weaponry
(pending)
Manners and Mutiny (pending)

21. Carriger, Gail: 
The Custard Protocol:
Prudence (pending)
Imprudence (pending)

22. Clare, Cassandra:
The Mortal Instruments:
City of Bones
City of Ashes
City of Glass
City of Fallen Angels
City of Lost Souls
City of Heavenly Fire


23. Clare, Cassandra:
The Infernal Devices:
Clockwork Angel
Clockwork Prince
Clockwork Princess


24. Clark, Ronald W.:
(standalone)
Queen Victoria’s Bomb

25. Conroy, Melissa Ann:
The Æther Saga:
Steam on the Horizon
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

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26. Cooke, L.M.:
The Automata Wars:
The Home Front
The Front Line


27. Cooper, Karina:
The St. Croix Chronicles:
The Mysterious Case of Mr. Strangeway
Tarnished
Gilded
Corroded
Tempered
Engraved
(pending)
Transmuted (pending)

28. Dahlquist, G.W.:
(series name?)
The Glass Books of the Dream Eaters
The Dark Volume
The Chemickal Marriage


29. deLaney, Celeste:
(series name?)
Badlands
Clockwork Mafia


30. Estleman, Loren D.:
The Further Adventures of Sherlock Holmes:
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Holmes
(only Steampunk book in series?)

31. Ewing, Al:
Pax Brittanica (see also Green, Jonathan):
El Sombra
Gods of Manhattan
Pax Omega


32. Farmer, Philip José:
(standalone)
The Other Log of Phileas Fogg

33. Fawcet, Quinn:
Mycroft Holmes Adventures (?):
Against The Brotherhood
Embassy Row
The Flying Scotsman
The Scottish Ploy


34. Fleming, R.S.:
Kate Tattersall’s Adventures:
Kate Tattersall’s Adventures in China
…in India
…in Ireland
…in Bavaria
…in England
…in Spain
…in Morocco
…in the Black Sea
…in the Crimea
…in Russia

 
35. Forstchen, William R.
The Lost Regiment:
Rally Cry
Union Forever
Terrible Swift Sword
Fateful Lightning
Battle Hymn
Never Sound Retreat
A Band of Brothers
Men of War
Down to the Sea


36. Frost, Toby:
The Chronicles of Isambard Smith:
Space Captain Smith
God Emperor of Didcot
Wrath of the Lemming Men
A Game of Battleships


37. Gatiss, Mark:
Lucifer Box:
The Vesuvius Club
Devil in Amber
Black Butterfly


38. Gibson, William, & Sterling, Bruce:
(standalone)
The Difference Engine

39. Gilman, Felix
(series name?)
The Half-Made World
The Rise of Ransom City
Thunderer
(?)
Gears of the City (?)
Revolutions (?)
Last three books may not be part of series.

40. Green, Jonathan:
Pax Brittanica (see also Ewing, Al):
Unnatural History
Leviathan Rising
Human Nature
Evolution Expects
Blood Royal
Dark Side
Anno Frankenstein
Time’s Arrow
(e-book only?)
(last book e-book only?)

41. Hale, Ginn:
(standalone)
Wicked Gentlemen

42. Harland, Richard:
Worldshaker:
Worldshaker
Liberator
Song of the Slums


43. Harper, Steven:  
The Clockwork Empire:
The Doomsday Vault
The Impossible Cube
The Dragon Men
The Havoc Machine


44. Harrison, Harry
(standalone)
A Transatlantic Tunnel, Hurrah!
(original title:) Tunnel Through the Deeps

45. Harrison, Harry
Stars and Stripes:
Stars and Stripes Forever
…in Peril
…Triumphant


46. Hobson, M.K.:
Veneficas Americana:
The Native Star
The Hidden Goddess
The Warlock’s Curse
The Unsteady Earth


47. Hodder, Mark:  
Burton & Swinburne:
The Strange Affair of Spring-heeled Jack
The Curious Case of the Clockwork Man
Expedition to the Mountains of the Moon
The Secret of Abdu El Yezdi
A Red Sun Also Rises


48. Holloway, Emma Jane:
The Baskerville Affair:
A Study in Silks
A Study in Darkness
A Study in Ashes


49. Hunt, Stephen:
Jackelian:
For the Crown and the Dragon
The Court of the Air
The Kingdom Beyond the Waves
The Rise of the Iron Moon
Secrets of the Fire Sea
Jack Cloudie
From the Deep of the Dark


50. Jeter, K.W.:
(non-series?)
Morlock Night
Infernal Devices
Fiendish Schemes


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51. Judson, Theodore:
(series name?)
Fitzpatrick’s War
Tri Ogalala
(proposed prequel)

52. Keyes, Gregory:
The Age of Unreason:
Newton’s Cannon
A Calculus of Angels
Empire of Unreason
The Shadows of God


53. Kious, Steve:
(standalone)
Sherlock Holmes and the Crater Lake Adventure

54. Lake, Jay:
Clockwork Earth:
Mainspring
Escapement
Pinion


55. Lausten, Erin:
Western Steampunk (?):
Cibola’s Promise (e-book only?)
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

56. Lewis, Joseph Robert:
Halcyon:
The Burning Sky
The Broken Sword
The Bound Soul


57. Lovece, Joseph A.:
The Steam Man of the West:
The Steam Man of the West
… Part II:  The Road Home


58. Lovegrove, James:
(standalone)
Sherlock Holmes:  The Stuff of Nightmares

59. Lupoff, Richard A:
(standalone?)
Into the Æther

60. Macalister, Katie:
(standalone)
Steamed

61. MacLeod, Ian R.:
(series name?)
The Light Ages
The House of Storms


62. Mann, George:
Newberry & Hobbes:
The Affinity Bridge
The Osiris Ritual
The Shattered Teacup
The Immortality Engine
The Executioner’s Heart


63. Mann, George:
The Ghost:
Ghosts of Manhattan
Ghosts of War


64. Martin, P.C.:
Steampunk Holmes:
Legacy of the Nautilus
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

65. Maybury, Ged:
Into the Storm’s Domain:
Across the Stonewind Sky
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

66. Mayer, Andrew P.:
The Society of Steam:
The Falling Machine
Hearts of Smoke and Steam
Power Under Pressure


67. Miéville, China:
Bas-Lag:
Perdido Street Station
The Scar
Iron Council


68. Miéville, China:
(standalone)
Kraken

69. Mitchelson, Austin, & Utechin, Nicholas:
(standalone)
Sherlock Holmes and the Earthquake Machine

70. Modesitt, L.E., Jr.:
Ghosts:
Of Tangible Ghosts
The Ghost and the Revelator
Ghosts of the White Night


71. Monk, Devon:
The Age of Steam:
Dead Iron
Tin Swift
Cold Copper


72. Moorcock, Michael:
A Nomad of the Time Streams:
Warlord of the Air
The Land Leviathan
The Steel Tsar


73. Ojetade, Balogun:
(standalone?)
Moses:  The Chronicles of Harriet Tubman (Books 1 & 2)

74. Oppel, Kenneth:
Matt Cruse:
Airborn
Skybreaker
Starclimber


75. Pagliassotti, Dru:
(series name?)
Clockwork Heart
Iron Wind
Heavy Fire


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76. Parker, K.J.:
The Engineer:
Devices and Desires
Evil for Evil
The Escapement


77. Peters, S.M.:
(series name?)
Whitechapel Gods
Ghost Ocean


78. Plampin, Matthew:
(series name?)
The Street Philosopher
The Devil’s Acre
Illumination


79. Powers, Tim:
(non-series?)
The Anubis Gate
The Stress of Her Regard
Last Call
Expiration Date
Earthquake Weather
Hide Me Among the Graves


80. Priest, Cherie: 
The Clockwork Century:
Boneshaker
Clementine
Dreadnaught
Ganymede
The Inexplicables
Fiddlehead


81. Pynchon, Thomas:
(standalone)
Against the Day

82. Rankin, Robert:
The Japanese Devil Fish Girl:
The Japanese Devil Fish Girl and Other Unnatural Attractions
The Mechanical Messiah and Other Marvels of the Modern Age
The Educated Ape and Other Wonders of the Worlds
The Chickens of Atlantis and Other Fowl and Filthy Fiends


83. Reeve, Philip:
Fever Crumb:
Fever Crumb
A Web of Air
Scrivener’s Moon


84. Reeve, Philip:
Predator Cities:
Mortal Engines
Predator’s Gold
Infernal Devices
A Darkling Plain


85. Reinagel, Wayne:
Modern Marvels:
Viktoriana
Gothika


86. Resnick, Mike:
The Weird West:
The Buntline Special
The Doctor and the…
…Kid
…Rough Rider
…Dinosaurs


87. Reynolds, Alastair:
(standalone)
Terminal World

88. Roberts, Keith:
(standalone)
Pavane

89. Rodgers, Robert C.:
(standalone)
Arcadia Snips and the Steamwork Consortium

90. Rucker, Rudy:
(standalone)
The Hollow Earth

91. Saberhagen, Fred:
The New Dracula:
The Holmes-Dracula File
The only Steampunk book in the series.

92. Simmons, Dan:
(non-series)
The Terror
Drood
The Abominable


93. Slade, Arthur:
The Hunchback Assignments:
The Hunchback Assignments
The Dark Deeps
Empire of Ruins
Island of Doom


94. Smith, George H.:
(standalone)
The Second War of the Worlds

95. Stephenson, Neal:
The Baroque Cycle:
Quicksilver
•   Quicksilver
•   King of the Vagabonds
•   Odalisque
The Confusion
•   Bonanza
•   The Juncto
The System of the World
•   Solomon’s Gold
•   Currency
•   The System of the World

Properly only three books, but some editions are broken down to eight.

96. Stirling, S.M.:
(standalone)
The Peshawar Lancers

97. Tapinas, Andrius:
Steam and Stone:
Hour of the Wolf
Day of the Plague


98. Taylor, G.P.:
Mariah Mundi:
The Midas Box
The Ghost Diamonds
The Ship of Fools


99. Tidhar, Lavie: 
The Bookman Histories:
The Bookman
Camera Obscura
The Great Game


100. Tisler, Lee:
Tineborough Adventure:
The Cogwork Apprentice in Dark Skies
Only book in the series I’m aware of.
(e-book only?)

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101. Tucker, Seth:
Winston & Baum:
Winston & Baum and the Secret of the Stone Circle
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

102. Valentine, Nick:
Thomas Riley (?):
Thomas Riley
Thomas Riley and the Maelstrom


103. Vaughan, Ralph E:
(standalone?)
Shadows Against the Empire

104. Vaughan, Ralph E:
(series name?)
Sherlock Holmes...
… and The Coils of Time
… and The Terror Out of Time
… in The Adventure of the Ancient Gods
… in The Dreaming Detective


105. Vaughan, Ralph E:
(series name?)
Professor Challenger in Secrets of the Dreamlands
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

106. Westerfeld, Scott: 
Leviathan:
Leviathan
Behemoth
Goliath
The Manual of Aeronautics

The last book listed is an in-universe guide to the author’s milieu, and as such I’m counting it as a fictional novel.

107. Windham, J. Dharma & Deanna:
(series name?)
I, Nemo
Raise the Nautilus


108. Wooding, Chris: 
Tales of the Ketty Jay:
Retribution Falls
The Black Lung Captain
The Iron Jackal
Ace of Skulls


109. Wooding, Chris: 
(standalone)
The Haunting of Alaizabel Cray

(End of List!)

And with that, I'm throwing it open to you. What did I leave off? What did I include that I shouldn't have? Why is x on the list but y is not? Why is the sky blue?

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2014, 10:33:52 am »

There's a couple I'm not sure would be described as steampunk (although they're all very good novels):

Neal Stephenson - The Baroque Cycle, this is C17/18 and very difficult to classify as to genre - I can't personally classify this collection as steampunk (although I'd probably recommend it to people that do enjoy steampunk - and have a few months available to read it!).  The Diamond Age is a standalone novel by the same author that includes a neo-Victorian/steampunk phyle or tribe.

Tim Powers - The Stress of Her Regard is a vampire/mythological novel set in the early C19.  Other than The Anubis Gate, I'm not sure any of his other novels are steampunk.
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Impressive. Great job....
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2014, 04:52:02 am »

Thanks. I'm not expert enough to go on "steampunk vs/ not steampunk" (got in trouble for recommending the Difference Engine...Wink

You may have already stopped by here - http://ageofsteam.wordpress.com/ - but they do a lot of interviews of SP authors, mention book titles, etc. So it may be of some use.

I'll have to go through the list to see what I'm missing...thx!

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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2014, 05:46:00 am »

This is a pleasing list, G.D. Falksen would be furious. Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2014, 12:49:17 pm »

This is a pleasing list, G.D. Falksen would be furious. Cheesy

Who?  Cheesy

~Serious note for a moment~

Thanks for this, GCCC.  Plenty to go looking for when I've some spare cash and room on my bookcases. 
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2014, 11:14:27 am »

First, a disclaimer:  I have not personally read all the books on this list. I was merely scouring this board, and some non-board sites, for anything that should potentially be included. It is for this reason that I am seeking feedback on what should be included that isn't and what is included that shouldn't.

Second, THANK YOU ALL for your kind words!

Third, keep the commentary coming!

@George Salt:
The Baroque Cycle was one of those recommendations I'd gleaned from a post somewhere in the Textual board. Based on your experience, should these books remain on the list with no qualifiers, or with an asterisk, or be eliminated from the list altogether?
I had looked at The Diamond Age, but discounted it as the online description put me in mind that, while an alternate history, it was not exactly Steampunk. I am willing, as I haven't read the work myself, to include it based on your recommendation. Should I?
Is The Stress of Her Regard a Steampunk work, or merely an alternate history with fantasy elements absent the science that would make it Steampunk?

Does anyone else feel strongly one way or another regarding the Tim Powers books I listed? I really only want to include the books that are Steampunk, so I've no problem excising those that are not from the list.

@Capt. Dirigible:
Thank you!

@pakled05:
Don't worry; I value everyone's opinion. (I tell my students, if you only associate with people you agree with, you'll never grow.)
I did look at their website, but clearly I did not look in the right place. I will dive back in for a more thorough study, now that you've shown me where the information I wanted was hidden.

@Argus Fairbrass:
Thank you! Also, please PM me; I have questions for you.

@James Harrison:
Thank you! I also have to seek out some (who am I kidding; most) of these titles myself.

As new titles are published, and as older titles are brought to my attention, I will add them. I expect this to be a "living" document, with your help.

Has anyone yet formed an opinion on some of my question marks?

Again, thank you all, and please keep the commentary coming!
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2014, 11:30:19 am »

I've just noticed an omission:

Michael Moorcock's Dancers at the End of Time series.

An Alien Heat
The Hollow Lands
The End of All Songs
Legends from the End of Time
The Transformation of Miss Mavis Ming
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2014, 12:14:25 pm »

@James Harrison:
The omission was deliberate. It is my understanding that this series is only nominally even science fiction, is mostly fantasy, and has no Steampunk elements of any note. I am, of course, eager to accept challenges to this belief. If you think they belong, present your argument. If a majority of the readers of this thread agree with you, or if you can merely convince me, I'll add the series.

@Everyone:
On a related note, I strongly suspect that there are series I have included, again based on suggestions gleaned from Textual and elsewhere, that are fantasy instead of science fiction. To my way of thinking, that means they should be excluded. And, again, I actively seek discussion regarding same. (For example, I love Fred Saberhagen's Dracula novels, but I only included one because it's the only one where Mad Science plays a major role. Likewise with the innumerable Sherlock Holmes pastiches; I thoroughly enjoyed far more than I included, again because of the absence of the science fiction element.)

But again, that's why I posted this list here; DEBATE! This list will only be a strong list with the input of the Brass Goggles community. Let's winnow out the chaff, and include the incorrectly excluded.
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2014, 12:51:12 pm »

I mentioned DATEOT because it has a main character who's taken a deep interest in what we would call Victoriana, time travellers from the Victorian era (at one point the main character travels back to the 1890s and literally bumps into H G Wells), the same sense of madcap humour that we members of BG love so much and as Moorcock says in the introduction to the SF Masterworks edition of the first three in the series, it's his paean to the 1890s fin de siecle movement in the arts.

My argument thus runs

1) It was written as a homage to the literature and art of the likes of Oscar Wilde, Aubrey Beardsley et al in the 1890s vein;
2) The main character sees himself as a Victorian;
3) It features time travel to and from the 1890s;
4) The Gilbert and Sullivan/ Wilde- styled comedy of errors and manners that pervade throughout.   

Does that make it steampunk, or steampunk-esque?  I leave it open to the board.   
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2014, 02:17:07 pm »

Sounds good enough to me.

Any dissenters?
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2014, 09:31:38 pm »

Alrighty, then...

First, we need to correct #29 from the original series of posts, as (a) I misspelled the author's name and (b) I have a series name:

29. deLaney, Seleste:
Badlands:
Badlands
Clockwork Mafia


James Harrison has convinced me that we should include:

110. Moorcock, Michael:
The Dancers at the End of Time:
An Alien Heat
The Hollow Lands
The End of All Songs
The Transformation of Miss Mavis Ming
(alternate title:  A Messiah at the End of Time)
NOTE:  I have not included Legends from the End of Time because this is a collection of short stories, and this list is for novels/novellas. (However, Mr. Harrison, remind me again when I call for submissions to the Short Stories list.)

Following leads provided by pakled05, I have added the following (with my usual exhortation that the Brass Goggles community call me out on the criteria listed in the beginning of this thread):

111. Adina, Shelly:
Magnificent Devices:
Lady of Devices
Her Own Devices
Magnificent Devices
Brilliant Devices
A Lady of Resources
A Lady of Spirit
A Gentleman of Means


112. Appleton, Robert:
(standalone)
The Mysterious Lady Law

113. Appleton, Robert:
The Steam Clock Legacy:
Prehistoric Clock
Imperial Clock
Yuletide Miracle


114. Archer, Zoe:
The Ether Chronicles:
(see also,  Rosso, Nico)
Skies of Fire
Skies of Steel
Skies of Gold


115. Benz, Derek & Lewis, J.S.:
Grey Griffins:  The Clockwork Chronicles:
The Brimstone Key
The Relic Hunters
The Paragon Prison


116. Burton, David H.:
Grim Doyle Adventures:
Scourge
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

117. Ciotta, Beth:
The Glorious Victorious Darcys:
Her Sky Cowboy
His Broken Angel
His Clockwork Canary


118. Cross, Kady:
Steampunk Chronicles:
The Strange Case of Finley Jayne
The Girl in the Steel Corset
The Girl in the Clockwork Collar
The Dark Discovery of Jack Dandy
The Girl with the Iron Touch
The Wild Adventure of Jasper Renn
The Girl with the Windup Heart


119. Cross, Kate:
Clockwork Agents:
Heart of Brass
Touch of Steel
Breath of Iron


120. Dee, Bonnie:
(standalone)
Like Clockwork

121. Falksen, G.D.:
The Hellfire Chronicles:
Blood in the Skies
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

122. Freer, David:
Cuttlefish:
Cuttlefish
The Steam Mole


123. Grace, Rachel:
Elemental Steam:
Geared for Pleasure
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

124. Grey, O.M.:
(series name?)
Avalon Revisited
Avalon Revamped


125. Griffith, Clay & Susan:
Vampire Empire:
The Greyfriar
The Rift Walker
The Kingmakers


126. Habel, Lia:
Gone with the Respiration:
Dearly, Departed
Dearly, Beloved

Untitled 3rd Book (pending)

127. Jablonsky, William:
(standalone)
The Clockwork Man

128. Kirby, Matthew J:
(non-series)
The Clockwork Three
The Lost Kingdom


129. Kittredge, Caitlin:
The Iron Codex:
The Iron Thorn
The Nightmare Garden
The Mirrored Shard


130. McMaster, Bec:
London Steampunk:
Kiss of Steel
Heart of Iron
Tarnished Knight
My Lady Quicksilver
Forged by Desire
Of Silk and Steam


131. Meyers, Theresa:
The Legend Chronicles:
The Hunter
The Slayer
The Chosen


132. Morris, Tee:
(standalone)
Aladdin and his Wonderfully Infernal Device

133. Pape, Cindy Spencer:
Gaslight Chronicles:
Steam & Sorcery
Photographs & Phantoms
Kilts & Kraken
Moonlight & Mechanicals
Cards & Caravans
Ashes & Alchemy
Dragons & Dirigibles
Ether & Elephants


134. Reeve, Philip:
Larklight:
Larklight
Starcross
Mothstorm


135. Riley, Regina:
(series name?)
Clockworks and Corsets
Pistons and Pistols


136. Rosso, Nico:
The Ether Chronicles:
(see also,  Archer, Zoe)
Night of Fire
Nights of Steel


137. Saintcrow, Lilith:
Bannon & Clare:
The Iron Wyrm Affair
The Damnation Affair
The Red Plague Affair
The Ripper Affair


138. Sedia, Ekaterina:
(non-series)
The Alchemy of Stone
Heart of Iron


139. Selznick, Brian:
(standalone)
The Invention of Hugo Cabret

140. Taylor, Kassy:
The Ashes Trilogy:
Ashes of Twilight
Shadows of Glass
Remnants of Tomorrow


141. Valentine, Nick:
The Young Alchemists:
Mister Corinth’s Laboratory
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

142. Watasin, Elizabeth:
The Dark Victorian:
Risen
Bones


143. Wine, Mary:
Steam Guardians:
A Lady Can Never Be Too Curious
A Captain and a Corset

Well, that's done it for my eyes again...

Quite a few of these more recent titles seem to be Romance novels, so I'm really hoping some of the ladies on this forum will chime in, because I'm definitely out of my depth with these books...

Okay, digest this new batch while I take my Old Man afternoon nap, and remember, don't stint on the comments and opinions.

Turn that light off on yer way out, wouldja? Thanks, mate.


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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 08:11:27 am »

A thought occurred to me (and yes, it hurt, wocka-wocka) that, with companies like TSR churning out tie-in novels to their franchises, had anyone done something similar with Space: 1899?

The answer is:  Yes. (But only a little...)

Most of what I found appears to only be available electronically (e-book or online). However, I found this:

144. Chadwick, Frank:
Space 1899 (?):
The Forever Engine

Are there others out there I've missed, from this franchise or any other?
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2014, 07:58:00 pm »

We need to amend #121, due to new information:

121. Falksen, G.D.:
The Hellfire Chronicles:
Blood in the Skies
Ash on the Wind
(pending)
Fire in the Storm (pending)

Anyone have anything else for me yet?
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2014, 04:44:29 am »

This may not be of much help, since I haven't read it - but Richard Lupoff had another book, the title escapes me, but it was something like Circumpolar and Circumsolar...or such.
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2014, 05:29:45 am »

I haven't read Circumpolar! or its sequel Countersolar!, however I did look into them and, while it was my determination that neither are Steampunk, no one's falling over themselves recommending either as reading material, period. However, as with everything else on or not on this list, I'm open to debate on the matter.
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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2014, 09:06:59 am »

Thanks to input provided so far (not specific recommendations, but additional places to search), I'm now adding the following:

145. Bailey, Kristin:
The Secret Order:
Legacy of the Clockwork Key
Rise of the Arcane Fire


146. Baker, Alan K.:
Blackwood and Harrington:
The Martian Ambassador
The Feaster from the Stars
The Gods of Atlantis


147. Cremer, Andrea:
The Inventor’s Secret:
The Inventor’s Secret
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

148. Crilley, Paul:
Tweed & Nightingale:
The Lazarus Machine
The Osiris Curse


149. Dryden, Delphine:
Steam and Seduction:
Gossamer Wing
Scarlet Devices
Gilded Lily


150. Foglio, Phil:
Girl Genius:  The Novels (?):
Agatha H and the Airship City
Agatha H and the Clockwork Princess

As these are novelizations of the original graphic novels, should these be excluded from this list as an adaptation of the previous work, or included because of the inherent differences between the two formats (pictures vs. words)?

151. Gee, Rae:
Veetu Industries:
Mars on the Rise
Selling Mars


152. Havens, E.M.:
Fate War:
Alliance
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

153. Karsak, Melanie:
The Airship Racing Chronicles:
Chasing the Star Garden
Chasing the Green Fairy
Chasing the Fog


154. Kennedy, Sean:
(standalone)
Wings of Equity

155. Kress, Adrienne:
(standalone)
The Friday Society

156. Laine, Susan:
Isleshire Chronicles:
Lofty Dreams of Earthbound Men
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

157. Noel, Jay:
The Mechanica Series:
Dragonfly Warrior
Only book in the series I’m aware of.

158. Preston, Richard Ellis, Jr.:
Chronicles of the Pneumatic Zeppelin:
Romulus Buckle and the City of the Founders
Romulus Buckle and the Engines of War


159. Snow, K.Z.:
Mongrel:
Mongrel
Merman

160. Stephenson, Neal:
(standalone)
The Diamond Age:  Or, a Young Lady’s Illustrated Primer
George Salt recommended this one be included, but that Stephenson's The Baroque Cycle should be reconsidered (it is currently included). I asked for commentary on this previously, but have heard nothing back. Soooo...does this one go in and the other come out?

That's all the additions for now (although I've found quite a few more I still need to investigate). As with all the earlier additions and the original list, commentary is requested.

Also, at this juncture, I would like your opinions on which literary breakdown should be tackled next; currently I'm favoring either graphic novels or collections, as either would (hopefully!) be a shorter list and therefore a nice break for the compiler with the tri-focals prescription that needs to be updated...


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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2014, 01:44:40 am »

Two Topics, One Post:

After considerable research, I'll be deleting Lindsay Buroker's The Flash Gold Chronicles and Lee Tisler's Tineborough Adventures series from this list and moving them to the list for e-publishing only works.

With the addition of new titles and the deletion of old titles, the numbering on this list is a long way from being accurate anymore, but I'm going to keep it because, as I can't upload the the Word .doc as an attachment, it makes for a handy visual tool for separation when transferred to the posts. That being said, here are:

161. Eishima, Jun & Arakawa, Hiromu:
Fullmetal Alchemist:
(see also:  Inoue, Makato & Arakawa, Hiromu)
Curse of the Crimson Elixir
The Girl who Succeeds God


162. Inoue, Makato & Arakawa, Hiromu:
Fullmetal Alchemist:
(see also:  Eishima, Jun & Arakawa, Hiromu)
Under the Faraway Sky
The Ties That Bind
A New Beginning
Daughter of the Dusk
Fullmetal Alchemist and the Broken Angel


Needless to say, my inclusion of these two works answers my own earlier question about whether or not we should include the Girl Genius novelizations. My thinking is that the novelizations of the original comic/manga works constitute an entirely new work based on the originals. I'll be using this logic in reverse when including graphic novels based on existing novels (this will include things running the gamut from Carriger's Soulless mangas to the Classics Illustrated line of adaptations).

On a related note, in a private conversation regarding this thread, I was asked questions regarding the rationale for including and excluding certain works. Having obtained permission from my correspondent to do so, I am replicating my response below (I have added bolding and italics to highlight certain statements):

re:  adding Moore and O'Neal's League of Extraordinary Gentlemen to the list of novels
"...Graphic novels are going to be on their own list. Looking at the recommendations from everyone over however long this board has been in existence, and culling and collating from infinite numbers of lists here and elsewhere online, I quickly realized that breaking up the literature by format would be the only way to keep my sanity. Short stories are going to make me completely nuts, I already know. I'm actually thinking of doing graphic novels...as a warm-up/break...before I tackle short stories..."

re:  adding a specific work, highly regarded and recommended, to the list of novels
"...(title of novel) and its sequels, and similar alternate histories and pastiches, pose a slightly stickier topic for me. Personally, I enjoyed (title of novel) (although I haven't gotten around to the sequels, and I fully intend to) but there's nothing about the work that seems even remotely Steampunk to me, besides the setting. Including all Victorian-era and Victorian-ish alternate histories would make this list just completely unmanageable (in other words, a serious threat to the sanity of the compiler!). I have to ask myself, does an alternate history set in the Victorian world or derived from same automatically constitute Steampunk? I would have to argue no; to my mind Steampunk, offspring of science fiction, must have science as the chief underpinning of the story, either as the reason things are as they are in this world or a major plot point. The story doesn't have to be about the science, but the science has to figure into and be a critical component of the work. My rule of thumb is:  If you take out the Steampunk-y elements (dirigibles, goggles, Victoriana, etc.), does the story still work? If it does, it probably isn't Steampunk. As an example, the presence of dirigibles in Pullman's His Dark Materials series and Gaiman's Stardust do not make either of these works Steampunk; the metaphysical (in the former) and the magical (in the latter) drive those two stories. Alternately, the vampires and werewolves in Carriger's Parasol Protectorate series are Steampunk, because she uses actual Victorian-era scientific theory to explain them (that, and one of her primary nemeses throughout the series is a collection of barking mad scientists)."

And finally, my disclaimer:
"...So, I fully expect to take some hits for excluding some works (and including others). But, that's also why I've stressed throughout the thread that I'm more than open to suggestions and comments; I would rather not be the arbiter for others regarding what is or is not considered 'Steampunk'. If enough people make it known that their wish is for me to include (author x)'s books, and they're willing to present a cogent argument why they should be included, I'll include them (or whatever other series or single works they're passionate about having on the list)...."

(Note:  For a very good example of how to present an argument to include a work, please reference the post of James Harrison earlier in this thread:)
I mentioned DATEOT because it has a main character who's taken a deep interest in what we would call Victoriana, time travellers from the Victorian era (at one point the main character travels back to the 1890s and literally bumps into H G Wells), the same sense of madcap humour that we members of BG love so much and as Moorcock says in the introduction to the SF Masterworks edition of the first three in the series, it's his paean to the 1890s fin de siecle movement in the arts.

My argument thus runs

1) It was written as a homage to the literature and art of the likes of Oscar Wilde, Aubrey Beardsley et al in the 1890s vein;
2) The main character sees himself as a Victorian;
3) It features time travel to and from the 1890s;
4) The Gilbert and Sullivan/ Wilde- styled comedy of errors and manners that pervade throughout.   

Does that make it steampunk, or steampunk-esque?  I leave it open to the board.
(For the record, while these were all excellent points, the clincher that sent it over in the "plus" column was #3, in particular the fact that the time travel device is science fiction, as opposed to fantasy-based time travel.)

I don't know if anyone else out there had these sorts of questions or not, or if they were too timid to ask them if they did, but regardless, hopefully the above will help.

For those interested in the running tally, there are now 444 individual works currently on this list of traditionally published novels/novellas. (To date, there are the four I moved from here to the new e-publishing list, and 99 on the graphic novels list.) But know that I am only the compiler; the ideas for its contents comes from you.

So...keep up the good work...and keep feeding this list!

p.s. I know that there are more than two topics in this one post. But would you have rather read a post with the heading "Several Topics all at Once" or the one I used?
You're welcome.





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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2014, 09:29:54 am »

This list insists on itself...I found a few more novels/novellas while looking for graphic novels:

163. Brown, “Captain” Robert:
The Airship Pirate Chronicles:
The Wrath of Fate
Retrograde


164. Kingston, Meg:
(standalone)
Chrystal Heart

165. Pratchett, Terry:
Discworld:
Raising Steam
The only Steampunk book in the series.

166. Valtat, Jean-Christophe:
The Mysteries of New Venice:
Aurorarama
Luminous Chaos
(w/Singh, Mahendra, illustrator)

167. Lansdale, Joe R.:
Ned the Seal:
Zeppelins West
Flaming London


Seacrest, out!





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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2014, 07:03:16 pm »

Here's two more I missed the first go 'round:

168. Hallam, Craig:
(standalone)
Greaveburn

169. Brown,Tonia:
(standalone)
The Cold Beneath (w/Rogers, Philip R., illustrator)

This brings us to 454 individual books...and I just discovered a new vein of young adult books, so...
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