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Author Topic: One of the biggest steam locomotives is being restored  (Read 3059 times)
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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2014, 06:48:04 pm »

I  do hope they decide to send him out to the East coast. I'll be one of the first in line to see him.


Union Pacific system map
Union Pacific tends to keep their steam locomotives in their own system. If there was a good enough reason, like the 1976 American Freedom Train, it might happen.
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2014, 07:16:12 pm »

I  do hope they decide to send him out to the East coast. I'll be one of the first in line to see him.


Union Pacific system map
Union Pacific tends to keep their steam locomotives in their own system. If there was a good enough reason, like the 1976 American Freedom Train, it might happen.


Thanks for the map.
It looks as if I'll need to make a trip back to California to see it. What a wonderful idea! Good Times!
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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2014, 12:05:07 pm »

The biggest problem in getting the 4014 back East is the loading gauge, that is the clearance space around the track.

Western Railroads were built with more space around them, than most eastern roads, this has improved with the introduction of "stack trains" (cars with two high shipping containers) which has caused the increase in vertical clearance above the track. None the less the side clearance and the tightness of the curves limit the areas back east that this large locomotive can access.

I can forsee them running it to Chicago, assuming they build something that can turn it around. Locomotives of this size do not run well in reverse, especially at speed. It is a matter of suspension, the wheel arraignment is designed to help the machine around curves. Backwards, the tender can jump the tracks, something that the UP caterpillar tenders are notorious for doing.

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ps  Her is a link to the latest video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1pcHLz7JZ4

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Amazing. I'd hate to be in charge of the logistics and scheduling for this, though.

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It was done by regular Union Pacific track maintenance forces. So, unlike heritage railroad operations, they had the large staff and specialized equipment to do the time critical part of the job in one night. Once LA Metrorail had shut down for the night, they cut into the Metrorail line, installed and ballasted a connection to their temporary track, and towed out UP 4014. Then they drove in its replacement exhibit, a donated Diesel, boxcar, and caboose. Then all the Metrorail track was restored to its original condition before the next morning. There were no major problems.

The long video above shows the process in more detail than most people will want to watch.



I have to admit, I'm loving the video, the process is fascinating to me. I'm so glad to see  this Big Boy getting a second chance. I  do hope they decide to send him out to the East coast. I'll be one of the first in line to see him.
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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2014, 08:55:19 pm »

Moving day

The Big Boy's trip back to Cheyenne, Wyoming is underway today. Tonight's stop is UP's railyard in Las Vegas. Thursday it moves to Milford, Utah. Saturday, on display in Salt Lake City. Monday, on display in Ogden, Utah. Thursday morning, on display in Laramie, Wyoming, followed by the move to the UP shops in Cheyenne, Wyoming.

Then, 3 to 5 years of repairs.
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« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2014, 08:03:22 am »

The Big Boy is in Cheyenne, Wyoming now. No problems during the move.


At the UP yard in Cheyenne

It's reached UP's locomotive shops, where they maintain their other steam locomotives. Now comes the multi-year restoration job.
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« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2014, 02:59:18 am »

Hadn't seen the newest updates - that video is fantastic!
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« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2016, 04:42:50 am »

Update:

Brake controls rebuild

Many small parts are being replaced. They had to machine many new parts.  Westinghouse Air Brake Company was able to find the original molds for rubber gaskets in the brake stand, and made new gaskets. They have almost all subsystems rebuilt now, including the boiler, and will begin reassembly soon.

Union Pacific wants to get 30 years of operating life out of the Big Boy before they have to do this again. Everything is being rebuilt to new-equipment standards. A lot of new steel is going in. Surfaces exposed to live steam are getting a modern protective coating. UP wants to send the Big Boy out to haul passenger trains for promotions and fan trips. There's no date for its first trip, but it's probably less than a year from first boiler firing.

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« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2016, 11:28:22 am »

 Cool
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« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2016, 07:19:34 pm »

Is the conversion to oil for the EPA?
There are no trackside coaling stations any more. Running on oil, they can take it anywhere on the US rail system. Union Pacific's own track connects most major US cities from Chicago westward, and they'll probably drive this beast all over the system for PR purposes.
So we'll never actually see it under steam?

I'm under the impression the loco is being rebuilt with oil firing in mind.  It'll still be a steam engine. 

Yes but it won't smell the same!
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« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2016, 06:40:03 am »

Further progress.


UP 4014 in the shop at Cheyenne, WY.

Restoration of UP 4014 was delayed while the UP Steam Shop did a major overhaul on UP 844.  UP 844 is now out of the shop and pulling special trains for railfans. Its most recent trip was Cheyenne Frontier Days last month.

Now they can concentrate on UP 4014. They're already done a lot of preliminary work on small parts. (Well, "small" by locomotive scale.) There's some parts commonality between the two locomotives; they use a very similar brass brake stand, and so those were overhauled together.

Video of brake stand overhaul.
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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2017, 08:53:33 pm »

Progress on the restoration continues.


The Big Boy, dismantled for repair.


Some new parts already fabricated.

Union Pacific is working to fully restore the locomotive to main-line operating standards, after which it will be used to pull excursion trains. They've already done that with UP 844, which has many parts in common with the Big Boy. Completion is still maybe 2 years away.
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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2017, 11:25:01 pm »

The engineering is really phenomenal!

Alas, the last broad gauge steam train ran from Melbourne to Wodonga several years ago (I have photos), after which the broad gauge track was ripped up. The Victorian government doesn't tend to run long distance steam trains on mainlines any more, which is a real pity. New South Wales can still run steam - had a visit from the Flying Scotsman a few years ago.
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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2017, 06:57:10 am »

I am eagerly awaiting the completion of this project. I have not ventured to the western States, but 4014 might persuade me to do so.
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2017, 04:49:47 pm »

Lovely!
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« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2017, 10:31:19 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4IFyI2cxl4
The Union Pacific steam shop is plugging away repairing the Big Boy. This video is about replacing some of the major parts of the articulation mechanism between the two engine sections. New forgings were required.

UP says they expect to have it running in 2018.
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« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2017, 09:19:24 pm »

The Diesel locomotive doing the towing tows over a million pounds of locomotive...

Never understood why Americans weigh heavy things in very small units of measurement, a locomotive in pounds, why not ounces? Do you also drive in inches per hour? or state your height in sixteenths of an inch?

That aside, it is an fugly locomotive, all the gubbins on display on the outside.

This is about as ugly as our big old locos get...



Most of the gubbins is hidden making a more pleasant view. Granted that big black American thing is impressive though.

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