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Author Topic: Giant Squid : "Omen " For Japanese Fishermen  (Read 983 times)
Hurricane Annie
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« on: February 21, 2014, 01:06:11 am »


Giant Kraken being caught in growing numbers along the Sea Of Japan Coast are being seen as an omen by fishermen.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11207054

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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2014, 01:18:19 am »

 Like all good fishing stories,  in each article the  squid gets bigger and bigger

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/giant-squid-seen-as-an-omen-by-japanese-fisherman-9140819.html

http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/8866/20140220/japanese-fishermen-wonder-if-giant-quid-are-bad-omens.htm



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/giant-squid-fishing-increase-number-3164637
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2014, 04:30:40 am »

Captain Nemo seen rolling his eyes.


"Giant" squid indeed.



Seriously, if anything I suspect the only omen here might be that their environment is out of whack.
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2014, 07:10:34 am »

Or a bad omen for wearers of Japanese schoolgirl uniforms...?    Grin
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2014, 08:23:53 am »

Or a bad omen for wearers of Japanese schoolgirl uniforms...?    Grin

 or a good omen   Wink
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2014, 09:36:06 am »

Might the "omen" have anything to do with the Fukushima Daiichi plant?
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2014, 09:51:12 am »

Might the "omen" have anything to do with the Fukushima Daiichi plant?


Indeed, this article about the experiences of a yachtsman off Japan:

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1848433/the-ocean-is-broken/

Paints a rather depressing picture of the damage Fukishima and the Tsunami have done to the wider ocean.  The fact that the water off Japan took the shine off the hull of his boat (literally) is certainly worrying.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2014, 08:40:39 am »

Hmmm...  I remember there was a story, about the time of the tsunami; it was about markers that have been in place for hundreds of years in that part of Japan.  They still say "do not build lower than this point", or words to that effect.  All of the buildings that were destroyed by the tsunami were, of course, built below that point.

Perhaps the fishermen have tales of times when these squids were caught in prior centuries - it would not surprise me that changes in the depths were also warnings of coming catastrophe.

Interesting.



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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2014, 09:54:46 am »

First a giant squid, next....
GODZILLAAAAAAAH!!!
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2014, 10:00:46 am »

Hmmm...  I remember there was a story, about the time of the tsunami; it was about markers that have been in place for hundreds of years in that part of Japan.  They still say "do not build lower than this point", or words to that effect.  All of the buildings that were destroyed by the tsunami were, of course, built below that point.

Perhaps the fishermen have tales of times when these squids were caught in prior centuries - it would not surprise me that changes in the depths were also warnings of coming catastrophe.

Interesting.



Chas.

 I  had wondered that.    Everything on this earth is connected and has an effect on the rest of the environment.  Could impending seismic or volcanic  action generate conditions that would bring these creatures up? Is it an extended cyclical weather pattern ?
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2014, 10:48:28 am »

I have read that because the water temperature has changed at different depths their food is now closer to the surface so they have swim closer to the surface. It went on to say that because they are now swimming closer to the surface they are loosing their buoyancy and are meeting their demise and this is why they are being found in fishing nets.

None of the stories I have read tell of the fishermen having to wrestle a "live" squid.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2014, 11:14:20 am »

I have read that because the water temperature has changed at different depths their food is now closer to the surface so they have swim closer to the surface. It went on to say that because they are now swimming closer to the surface they are loosing their buoyancy and are meeting their demise and this is why they are being found in fishing nets.

None of the stories I have read tell of the fishermen having to wrestle a "live" squid.

 there are stories from legend of boats being destroyed and men fighting giant squid, but that was several hundred or more years ago. Potentially they can take on a small boat and  tip or break it.

 as to the  ocean changes, could they be preceeding other events or cyclical changes? Or other   events in history being preceded by giant squid rising to the surface that are sticking in the cultural subconscious of these fishermen.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2014, 12:04:07 am »

Big Bertha is stirring. SANCTUARY.  Anybody?
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2014, 12:17:49 am »

Omen is also the name of a Japanese restaurant I once ate in. The name apparently means "honourable noodle".
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2014, 01:06:35 am »

@Arabella Periscope:

You do look a bit like Dr. Magnus (well, more Col. Carter, but still)...

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100117222336/sanctuary/images/5/55/2x13.jpg
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2014, 02:16:50 am »

Big Bertha is stirring. SANCTUARY.  Anybody?


 I am envious . We did not get that series down under here.  We do get a slathering of other Canadian productions.

 a giant squid would have  have ramped up the excitement  on "beachcombers".
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2014, 02:25:40 am »

My Dears,
Did you know that there was a Vampire Squid from Hell?
And some can display flashing neon lights.
Now, that would be an omen.
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2014, 02:31:21 am »

My Dears,
Did you know that there was a Vampire Squid from Hell?
And some can display flashing neon lights.
Now, that would be an omen.
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2014, 04:41:49 am »

@Arabella Periscope:

You do look a bit like Dr. Magnus (well, more Col. Carter, but still)...

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100117222336/sanctuary/images/5/55/2x13.jpg
(Big Bertha, in case no one knows who we're talking about.)




Why, thank you.  Dr. Magnus is one of my heroines, as is her former incarnation.  We are a sisterhood of time-travelers with a touch of vampire blood! 

That was the picture of the ocean arachnid I was trying to post.  Big Bertha.  Much obliged.
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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2014, 08:34:50 am »

Think nothing of it.
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2014, 10:21:05 am »

@Arabella Periscope:

You do look a bit like Dr. Magnus (well, more Col. Carter, but still)...

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100117222336/sanctuary/images/5/55/2x13.jpg
(Big Bertha, in case no one knows who we're talking about.)



Why, thank you.  Dr. Magnus is one of my heroines, as is her former incarnation.  We are a sisterhood of time-travelers with a touch of vampire blood! 

That was the picture of the ocean arachnid I was trying to post.  Big Bertha.  Much obliged.


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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2014, 06:48:02 pm »

I for one think that fleeing creatures is a good indicator of a change in the habitat or the ecosystem.  The squid are running away from warmer waters. I'm not an expert, but it seems to me that, quite easily, warmer waters at the bottom could be correlated to increase volcanic activity, which in turn may indicate a possible future rise in seismic activity by way of tectonic plate motion.

So yes, perhaps the Japanese fishermen do know from centuries of experience that something may happen.
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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2014, 07:13:46 am »

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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2014, 09:00:35 am »

My Dears,
Discovered two Steampunk pullovers, one of which features a squid, and the other an old-fashioned waistcoat:
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