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« on: January 04, 2014, 04:34:44 am »

I am pretty sure this is in the right thread, but if not, mods please relocate it. Thank you.

In my search of the site for steampunk weapon ideas, it has always been Western weapons. I see rapiers, broadswords, English Flintlocks, British Boarding Axes.

This is very disappointing to me. I believe that some of the most elegant and deadly weapons come from the Middle and Far East.

Some examples of Middle And Far Eastern Weapons I believe would look interesting in a Steampunk setting are the Indian Chakrams, Persian Scimitar, Turkish Yataghan, Sri Lankan Piha Kaetta, Japanese Katana, Japenese Naginata, Indian Katar, Chinease Dao, Japanese Teppo, Sri Lankan Kastane, Malabar Ayudha Katti, Indian Toradar, and finally the Indian Matchlock Revolving Musket.

I can post pictures later if that would be helpful. Your input would be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2014, 05:34:23 am »

It will take some work for you to find them (they say "The Search box is your friend," but ours isn't very friendly) but I do recall seeing several khukuri, a katar or two and a Jezail musket around here somewhere.

Actually, a weapons thread should probably be in either Tactile (for design ideas) or Metaphysical (for historical inspirations.)
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2014, 06:04:04 am »

I can't find too many recent threads on non-Western steampunk weapons but we do have some international-oriented threads.  Perhaps someone who remembers threads prior to 2010/2009

Discussion on Steampunk Samurai (recent):
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,41733.0.html


Non-Western Steampunk (Japan)
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,38619.0.html

General International Steampunk threads
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,38639.0.html  (General)
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,40399.0.html  (Non-English Speaking, France, Spain, Argentina, Mexico, Japan)
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,26636.msg870408.html (Mexico)
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2014, 06:18:29 am »

There used to be an old silent film on youtube showing Sikhs with metal rings around their turbans. The Sikhs would remove the rings and throw them. Someone told me that there were travelers stories of Sikhs beheading men by throwing razor-sharp turban rings (most likely just stories).

I envision a version of this iron ring that contains a small motor and spinning blades.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2014, 11:47:34 am »

Take a look at some of the deigns by Aether_Anvil, I think you'll like them.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2014, 02:50:40 pm »

There used to be an old silent film on youtube showing Sikhs with metal rings around their turbans. The Sikhs would remove the rings and throw them. Someone told me that there were travelers stories of Sikhs beheading men by throwing razor-sharp turban rings (most likely just stories).

I envision a version of this iron ring that contains a small motor and spinning blades.


This weapon is called a Chakrams and it was also used by the Elite Indian Rajputs. I envisioned a similar idea, but would one go about dealing all that gruesome damage, but at the same time protecting the delicate mechanism!

Take a look at some of the deigns by Aether_Anvil, I think you'll like them.


I will take a look thank you!

I can't find too many recent threads on non-Western steampunk weapons but we do have some international-oriented threads.  Perhaps someone who remembers threads prior to 2010/2009

Discussion on Steampunk Samurai (recent):
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,41733.0.html


Non-Western Steampunk (Japan)
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,38619.0.html

General International Steampunk threads
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,38639.0.html  (General)
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,40399.0.html  (Non-English Speaking, France, Spain, Argentina, Mexico, Japan)
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,26636.msg870408.html (Mexico)


Thank you for the threads!

It will take some work for you to find them (they say "The Search box is your friend," but ours isn't very friendly) but I do recall seeing several khukuri, a katar or two and a Jezail musket around here somewhere.

Actually, a weapons thread should probably be in either Tactile (for design ideas) or Metaphysical (for historical inspirations.)


And how would one go about moving a thread topic?
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2014, 10:18:23 pm »

You ask me your helpful mod.  I will move this as soon as I get off work. doing admin work on my phone is tricky.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2014, 10:31:52 pm »

This is why a Brass Goggles app would be nice haha!
http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,41967.msg883874.html#msg883874
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2014, 10:41:10 pm »

perhaps but my phone crashes more from apps than anything else.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2014, 11:01:34 pm »

I already find it odd that people in a technologically advanced victorian age would use outdated weapons such as flintlocks. It seems some of those weapons you mentioned would be even older.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2014, 11:33:15 pm »

I already find it odd that people in a technologically advanced victorian age would use outdated weapons such as flintlocks. It seems some of those weapons you mentioned would be even older.

That is a good question.  One way that the older designs continued to enjoy use is that, due to the investment they represented, they were converted to newer technology.  Flintlock rifles and pistols could be modified to simply replace the flintlock mechanism with a percussion cap mechanism starting around the 1830s, and percussion revolvers had conversion cylinders to fire cartridge type ammunition soon after the American Civil War.   
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2014, 12:33:30 am »

Yes I was going for older traditional Non-Western weapons. They tend to be more unique I have found!
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2014, 06:59:56 am »

See these http://awayandaway.com/the-best-coolest-sexiest-steampunk-clothing-costumes/
from Halloween 2013 Two costumes to interest you in particular In the women's section the beautiful sari outfit with the Indian sword and in the men's the steampunk ninja.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2014, 07:32:29 am »

I already find it odd that people in a technologically advanced victorian age would use outdated weapons such as flintlocks. It seems some of those weapons you mentioned would be even older.

That depends on whether you're in a technologically-advanced Victorian region or in one of the more backward Colonial regions.
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2014, 09:44:44 am »

Also any of the Khyber weapons would be considered Non-Western as well(though they're built on Western designs), they're definitely very Afghanized.
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2014, 12:37:16 pm »

I already find it odd that people in a technologically advanced victorian age would use outdated weapons such as flintlocks. It seems some of those weapons you mentioned would be even older.

Old Technology doesn't equate with lessening usefulness - after all we still equip special forces with knives and that's pretty old technology ;-)

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2014, 01:24:51 pm »

I already find it odd that people in a technologically advanced victorian age would use outdated weapons such as flintlocks. It seems some of those weapons you mentioned would be even older.

Think about it this way though, in the actual "Wild West" and not the one portrayed in the films, it should be noted that many of those living on the frontier did not carry modern revolvers and lever action rifles as often portrayed in the films, but instead they were more than often armed with either muzzle loading rifles and similar designs, as the availability of parts, ammunition and modern arms in general was on average low.

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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2014, 01:58:09 pm »

Flintlocks were possibly not converted because the parts were not standard sizes, making the fittings bigger. After Eli Whitney made interchangeable parts, guns became standard with the same fittings for every part. That's why some flintlock conversions have these huge boxes at the end, to hold ammunition and the new mechanism.

But I digress. So is the general consensus that these would look good with steampunk or no? I am asking because one, the Victorian age lasted a long time and Britian still had foot holds in the East, and two, my steampunk character is suppose to use very exotic weapons, as he is a air pirate, and travelled the world.
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2014, 02:04:21 pm »

If you peruse the (admittedly vast) Brass Goggles archives, I think you'll find that, so long as you maintain the æsthetic and can provide at least the pretence of an explanation, you can get away with almost anything. We are not, after all, aiming for historical accuracy. Wink
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2014, 02:18:47 pm »

Thank you Von Corax!
So does anyone have any non-Western weapons in their arsenal?
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2014, 05:16:14 pm »

You could perhaps have some ghurka knives.
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2014, 05:51:01 pm »

Khukuris! Not really my style but they are definitely cool!
Personally I am looking to make myself a Turkish Yataghan.
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2014, 05:52:05 pm »

I like the Japanese War Fan.  I may make another. I have also considered a chain whip.
The thuggee had some sort of weaponized scarf.  A killer cravat? Hmmm.
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2014, 08:41:26 pm »

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced the Indian Tulwar swords are the ultimate SP sword. Aside from being damn sexy, they are also very deadly when used on horseback. They are slashing and cutting weapons, and their curvature makes them very well suited for close quarter combat (airships, trains, etc). They often used western cavalry sabres, reshaped and with new handles, etc. There are a few videos on YouTube demonstrating how they're used. I really like the stances where the blade is held close to the body and moved in circular paths..
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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2014, 08:43:41 pm »

Yes the Talwar is amazing as is its family, the Palwar, Shamshir, Kilig, and Cutlasses!
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