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« on: July 29, 2013, 12:45:32 am »

Is anyone making doll size steampunk?  I have had several requests for rocket packs and weapons that are doll size, but nicely made.  Basically a little small for my clumsy fingers.  Don't remember seeing such. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2013, 05:43:36 am »

What particular scale are you talking about? I've worked in 1/12 with dolls and they are definitely on the small side.  Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2013, 05:57:04 am »

I have a lot of 1/4 scale dolls and I am starting to build things for them
this is a 1|4 scale set


and a fancy ray gun


And a mechanical bird companion
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2013, 07:30:25 pm »

Now there's a thought! I've made a variety of 1/12 scale miniatures in the past, and I have long been daydreaming about designs for a dolls house. Maybe I'll give accessories a thought.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2013, 10:16:00 am »

I've been entertaining the idea for a little while now. I'm not a doll collector, I've neither the time nor the space -and what exists now doesn't fit my tastes enough that the amount of fabricating would be so extensive that it would eat my life. But I always liked small things. I did an art project recently for an online class and part of it was based on collections cabinets of curiosity based on Victorian collections.

I just happen to have a thrift shop find of a wall unit for holding small objects, and one of the dividers was broken, and it was broken just right for making into a small book shelf. So I made a little library with doll house books and a charm of a painting, and I had parts from a mini travel chess board that look doll sized. and some mini glazed pottery and some mini glass bottles and a spinning desk globe charm. I printed out a photo quality wall map in miniature and made a compartment of skeleton key charms. I had some other nicknack's too and just made an artsy collection.

If I did get into doll stuff I just wouldn't have the slightest idea what sort of scale I would work on, I don't know enough about any of it.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2013, 11:15:49 am »

Maybe a list of suitable scales and their uses would be a good addition to this thread Maets? Stella has mentioned 1/4 scale - what is the primary use Stella ~ collectors? Dolls house is popularly modelled in 1/12 but I think 1/24 is also sometimes done. 1/24 is also the smallest scale for G scale railway, although strictly speaking it is 1/22.5! Gn covers the range for narrow gauge G scale from 1/24ish down to roundabout 1/19.

Obviously dolls and dolls houses apply to steampunk quite easily, but so also can Gn as many fantasy layouts, including steampunk are built and on display on the internet.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2013, 12:47:39 pm »

Unfortunately, I didn't ask for the scale of interest, but I got the feeling they were talking GI Joe size.  What scale is that?
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2013, 02:59:52 pm »

Not sure its Steampunk but it is definitely Victorian.  I am just finishing up a dollhouse for my niece.  Four years into it and all I have left is the lighting.  Hope to wrap it up in the next few months.  I would love to see her steampunk the decor. Who knows one day she may get into steampunk and do just that.  One can only hope.

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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2013, 04:53:27 pm »

Unfortunately, I didn't ask for the scale of interest, but I got the feeling they were talking GI Joe size.  What scale is that?


12" or 1:6 scale. http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,38572.0.html  But I think you new that already. Wink 
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2013, 12:52:31 am »

Nice house there,Churchjw.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2013, 01:36:14 am »

Thanks Drew.

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2013, 06:16:31 am »

Angus 1\4 and 1\3 scales are often used for ball jointed dolls like this one.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2013, 10:22:26 pm »

Unfortunately, I didn't ask for the scale of interest, but I got the feeling they were talking GI Joe size.  What scale is that?


12" or 1:6 scale. http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,38572.0.html  But I think you new that already. Wink 


Got the ratio part.  Just thought there might be something like Standard gauge or O gauge as there is for model trains.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2015, 05:40:26 pm »

I have a lot of 1/4 scale dolls and I am starting to build things for them
this is a 1|4 scale set


and a fancy ray gun


And a mechanical bird companion



These are gorgeous!
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2015, 09:01:42 pm »

If anyone is considering dressing 1/12th scale dolls can I recommend 'Making and Dressing Dolls' House Dolls in 1/12th Scale' by Sue Atkinson.  It has lots of clothes patterns for the Victorian period, including a couple of uniforms.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2016, 12:32:40 am »

If you could find any (I'm sure they're collector-priced these days), the old GI Joes (the real ones, not those tiny things from the '80s) came with some very neat accessories those with the skills could easily mod into Steampunk bits for that size doll. The scuba tank that came with one of mine comes to mind regarding possibilities for rocket packs, although I'm pretty sure they had one of those James Bond-type jet packs as well.

In addition to the scuba gear, there were a variety of pistols and rifles (which the Joes couldn't hold because their hands were permanently in that "pew-pew" position), grenades, a flamethrower, the harpoon gun that came with my scuba set, and a whole bunch of other stuff I can't remember. I vaguely recall Joes with deep sea diving gear and astronaut gear, which would be right up our makers' respective alleys. I would think that most of these would mod up rather nicely.
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2016, 06:06:11 pm »

Just googled "steampunk gi joe" and a ton of images show up.
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2016, 07:02:40 pm »

Just googled "steampunk gi joe" and a ton of images show up.

Well, I'm definitely going to have to look that up. (I'd bet it's making the collectors surly, 'though!)

While I was sitting here waiting for the "Post Reply" page to come up, the following just leapt into my mind:  In a GI Joe Steampunk world, everybody has a prosthetic gauntlet on their right hand. At some point in the recent past, a birth defect had arisen wherein males were all born with their right hands permanently fused into that finger extended, thumb up "pew-pew" position. The surgically grafted gauntlet allows them the full range of normal movement of the hand.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2016, 12:19:23 pm »

Unfortunately, I didn't ask for the scale of interest, but I got the feeling they were talking GI Joe size.  What scale is that?


12" or 1:6 scale. http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,38572.0.html  But I think you new that already. Wink 


Got the ratio part.  Just thought there might be something like Standard gauge or O gauge as there is for model trains.


Most dollhousing products are made in four common scales: 1" (1/12, occasionally used for fantasy and glamour figures but mostly for motorcycles), 1/2" (1/24, a common car and truck scale), 1/4" (1/48, US O scale, and common for fighter aircraft) and 1/8" (1/144). Don't ask how many people use that last one (more common for modern fighters, large aircraft, giant robots and submarines.) Some manufacturers and hobbyists work in oddball scales like 1/16.

Dollhouse and Miniature Scene magazine, in recent years, had a series of steampunk articles.
https://www.hobbies-and-crafts.co.uk/dolls-houses-miniatures/store/back-issues/dolls-house-and-miniature-scene/dolls-house-and-miniature-scene-march-2016

Perhaps I shall try this one day, as I managed to acquire a few dollhouse books from Virgils Antiques recently...
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2016, 04:02:32 pm »

Just googled "steampunk gi joe" and a ton of images show up.

Well, I'm definitely going to have to look that up. (I'd bet it's making the collectors surly, 'though!)

While I was sitting here waiting for the "Post Reply" page to come up, the following just leapt into my mind:  In a GI Joe Steampunk world, everybody has a prosthetic gauntlet on their right hand. At some point in the recent past, a birth defect had arisen wherein males were all born with their right hands permanently fused into that finger extended, thumb up "pew-pew" position. The surgically grafted gauntlet allows them the full range of normal movement of the hand.

I guess hand shakes are out of the question.
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2016, 04:59:49 am »

Just googled "steampunk gi joe" and a ton of images show up.

Well, I'm definitely going to have to look that up. (I'd bet it's making the collectors surly, 'though!)

While I was sitting here waiting for the "Post Reply" page to come up, the following just leapt into my mind:  In a GI Joe Steampunk world, everybody has a prosthetic gauntlet on their right hand. At some point in the recent past, a birth defect had arisen wherein males were all born with their right hands permanently fused into that finger extended, thumb up "pew-pew" position. The surgically grafted gauntlet allows them the full range of normal movement of the hand.

I guess hand shakes are out of the question.

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2016, 07:01:43 pm »

Just googled "steampunk gi joe" and a ton of images show up.

Well, I'm definitely going to have to look that up. (I'd bet it's making the collectors surly, 'though!)

Not necessarily.  "Big" G.I. Joes were re-issued in the '90s, may still be around.
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2016, 06:29:10 am »

Is anyone making doll size steampunk?  I have had several requests for rocket packs and weapons that are doll size, but nicely made.  Basically a little small for my clumsy fingers.  Don't remember seeing such.  


For some time now, it was folded into the existing collector dolls industry - and at a price to match...

"Eos" is a Steampunk ball jointed doll in a family of dolls called "Pullip" made by the South Korean company Cheonsang Cheonha (sold under the brand name Groove). I think at least back to 1012 or as far back as 2010? I forget how old:
http://www.toypusher.com/dolls/steampunk-pullip/#.Vu-FHCbLepo



And many derivatives which followed after the original:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/suemomo/sets/72157623409544237/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aurora-Pullip-doll-STEAMPUNK-PROJECT-ECLIPSE-Groove-Inc-/301508456861?_ul=BY

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« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2016, 02:36:31 pm »

Unfortunately, I didn't ask for the scale of interest, but I got the feeling they were talking GI Joe size.  What scale is that?

GI Joe and Barbie are just shy of a foot tall, which makes them 1:6 scale, which is small but large enough for a reasonable amount of detail. If you look for 1:6 military scale action figures on the internet, you can get an idea of the level of realism that's possible.

Also check out the miniature work in The Rocketeer. Bill Campbell had a small scale stand-in in many of the flying scenes which is fully detailed and can pass for the actor in costume in the production stills. I think that it was about two feet tall, which is about twice the size of GI Joe.
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