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Author Topic: "Earbuds"? Why, after one hundred years?  (Read 1320 times)
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« on: May 03, 2013, 12:42:31 am »



They have been around for over a century. Why, after 100 years, has "earbuds" become a generic term for all earphones for some people?
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2013, 02:28:35 am »

Earbuds are a particular type of audio device, defined by the fact that part of the device sits within the ear itself. It's to differentiate them from headphones, which sit outside of the ear on a headband, and earphones, which don't have a headband but don't sit within the ear, often they have hooks to keep them in place.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2013, 03:33:04 am »

I hadn't noticed anyone refering to regular headphones as earbuds, but that does sound annoying. Acturally, why earbuds at all? They're uncomfortable and may increase hearing damage.
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2013, 03:39:05 am »

They're uncomfortable and may increase hearing damage.

I can't stand headphones, they never seem to fit the curve of my head and mess with my hair.  I have had the silicone tipped earbuds for years and I won't change to headphones.

I understand that everybody has their own opinions but this is mine.
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2013, 03:47:09 am »

Okay, I'll give you that... it's why I have behind the head headphones. I find earbuds very uncomfortable and most fall out constantly.
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2013, 03:54:01 am »

Okay, I'll give you that... it's why I have behind the head headphones. I find earbuds very uncomfortable and most fall out constantly.

I find that style and long hair are incompatible.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2013, 04:02:02 am »

Likewise, I can't support a headband with a mohawk. With earbuds it's simply a case of finding the right size for the silicone attachment; if you get some that actually fit, they're not uncomfortable and they never fall out.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2013, 04:13:27 am »

So they tell me, but apparently that's easier said than done.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2013, 04:34:17 am »

Likewise, I can't support a headband with a mohawk. With earbuds it's simply a case of finding the right size for the silicone attachment; if you get some that actually fit, they're not uncomfortable and they never fall out.

You could always add a parting for the band.
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2013, 06:10:07 am »

I'm not talking just about headphones that fit over your head. Since early in the twentieth century there have been miniature earphones that hit inside your ear, and the Earbud company did not invent anything new.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2013, 06:12:47 am »

Likewise, I can't support a headband with a mohawk. With earbuds it's simply a case of finding the right size for the silicone attachment; if you get some that actually fit, they're not uncomfortable and they never fall out.

You could always add a parting for the band.

I've done it before but I wouldn't leave the house like that Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2013, 06:18:54 am »

I find that the soft tip earbuds work well.  I can't have pressure on the outside of my ear or it starts hurting quite a bit.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2013, 10:24:20 am »

I use Sennheiser CX300 II earphones (I hate the word 'earbud'; I always think it sounds vaguely anatomical... "The doctor said I've got an infected earbud so I've got to use these drops twice a day").

The sound quality is great and they're well-made so they last for ages. I've lost a few pairs because i'm absent-minded, but I don't think I've ever had to replace a pair because they've stopped working. If you shop around you can get them for under £20.

If you find earphones uncomfortable, I'd also recommend Comply foam tips. I get through a few pairs a year but it means I can wear my earphones for hours at a time now, whereas before I used to struggle to listen to a whole album on my mp3 player before giving up due to ear-ache.

Also because the foam expands to fit your ear, they're better at blocking out background noise so you don't have to turn up the volume (which I'm sure is appreciated by the people around you who don't necessarily want to listen to your music). Comply make a range of models to fit lots of different makes of earphones and different sizes of ear. Again, if you shop around you can get them for a few pounds per pair.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2013, 11:46:11 am »

Okay, I'll give you that... it's why I have behind the head headphones. I find earbuds very uncomfortable and most fall out constantly.

I find that style and long hair glasses are incompatible.
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2013, 12:04:51 pm »

what on earth are you all on about ?  "Earbuds" are ears from the USA who have become friends, they used to be called earbuddies, but now shortened to just earbuds. Sadly most are destined never to meet being on the opposite side of peoples heads.
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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2013, 02:20:02 pm »

Likewise, I can't support a headband with a mohawk. With earbuds it's simply a case of finding the right size for the silicone attachment; if you get some that actually fit, they're not uncomfortable and they never fall out.

You could always add a parting for the band.

I've done it before but I wouldn't leave the house like that Cheesy

No one would look at you that weirdly in Edinburgh I have seen plenty of people looking weirder, although they are trying to look fashionable.

Okay, I'll give you that... it's why I have behind the head headphones. I find earbuds very uncomfortable and most fall out constantly.

I find that style and long hair glasses are incompatible.

Long hair and glasses make it even worse.
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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2013, 03:03:59 pm »

For listening in private at home, I use headphones. For listening in private on the road (walk or bicycle) I use earbuds. On a temperate volume though.
But nothing beats listening to music on a good sound set with the base pounding your chest.  Grin

They should make vests that resembles the base pound to match the earbuds. A vest-bud or ear-vest. Yeah, I think I'm on to something there.  Cheesy
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2013, 03:51:59 pm »

For listening in private at home, I use headphones. For listening in private on the road (walk or bicycle) I use earbuds. On a temperate volume though.
But nothing beats listening to music on a good sound set with the base pounding your chest.  Grin

They should make vests that resembles the base pound to match the earbuds. A vest-bud or ear-vest. Yeah, I think I'm on to something there.  Cheesy

I agree, having been mostly deaf for the first 6 years of my life I experience so much sound, in particular low noises, though my body. Half the time I have no idea if I'm actually hearing or feeling a low sound. Earphones feel empty. Then again a really heavy base can make me feel rather ill. And certain engine noises can cause me to roll around in agony as I feel my skull reverberating... maybe not such a good superpower.

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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2013, 07:21:59 pm »

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I agree, having been mostly deaf for the first 6 years of my life I experience so much sound, in particular low noises, though my body. Half the time I have no idea if I'm actually hearing or feeling a low sound. Earphones feel empty. Then again a really heavy base can make me feel rather ill. And certain engine noises can cause me to roll around in agony as I feel my skull reverberating... maybe not such a good superpower.

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With that heavy ill making base you would probably be close to the "brown note"  Grin
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2013, 04:26:03 pm »

So they tell me, but apparently that's easier said than done.


http://www.complyfoam.com/ Have foam tips to fit most IEM/Canal phone type earphones in various sizes.

For listening in private at home, I use headphones. For listening in private on the road (walk or bicycle) I use earbuds. On a temperate volume though.
But nothing beats listening to music on a good sound set with the base pounding your chest.  Grin

They should make vests that resembles the base pound to match the earbuds. A vest-bud or ear-vest. Yeah, I think I'm on to something there.  Cheesy


Pretty sure a company used to make these for pc/console gaming years ago though they weren't very good. Buttkicker style transducers may be worth a look for inspiration.
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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2013, 06:44:36 pm »

In terms of stage performance earbuds can be pretty essential. Although it's acceptable and necessary for someone such as the drummer to wear close backed headphones for hearing click tracks and blocking out back ground noise. If used by vocalists you won't find too many singers happy about running around on stage in headphones for their personal in ear monitoring.

They can also be bloomin expensive.

http://www.shure.co.uk/products/in_ear_monitoring
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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2013, 10:20:02 pm »

what on earth are you all on about ?  "Earbuds" are ears from the USA who have become friends, they used to be called earbuddies, but now shortened to just earbuds. Sadly most are destined never to meet being on the opposite side of peoples heads.

I believe the equivalent British expression would be "ear-chum." This term has never become popular in the rest of the world, however, as ear-chum tends to attract sharks.
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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2013, 07:24:13 am »

Ear-chum. Isn't that the brown stuff that comes out of ears?

I used to have my walkman (yes, I'm that old  Wink) on max volume. Untill I got a new walkman with limited volume. It played the music on the requested volume, but tempered the loud parts. Quite annoying, so I turned the volume down to the level where the limit didn't distort.
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2013, 01:37:11 pm »

Ear-Chum ! HaHaHa.

Will use that with my poshest voice  "I say, would you have possibly seen my ear-chums around ?"

Also the sound limitation issue is the reason I don't buy any Sony products. Because of various directives which are not law in the UK, Sony took it upon themselves to limit their products to these levels with no way to switch this off. The issue for myself is that I don't just use MP3 players for listening to with earphones - I use them in my car and with a separate sound system, the Sony ones are just far too quiet and therefore spend their time languishing in a drawer while the Samsungs get played all the time (knocking Apple stuff into a cocked hat by the way).
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2013, 01:43:56 pm »

Ear-Chum ! HaHaHa.

Will use that with my poshest voice  "I say, would you have possibly seen my ear-chums around ?"

Also the sound limitation issue is the reason I don't buy any Sony products. Because of various directives which are not law in the UK, Sony took it upon themselves to limit their products to these levels with no way to switch this off. The issue for myself is that I don't just use MP3 players for listening to with earphones - I use them in my car and with a separate sound system, the Sony ones are just far too quiet and therefore spend their time languishing in a drawer while the Samsungs get played all the time (knocking Apple stuff into a cocked hat by the way).
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I have a Sony MP3 walkman and it bugs the hell out of me that I can't get the volume loud enough to drown out external sound. I think when I get a new one I will go with a Samsung if they have a decent volume control.
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