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Author Topic: Victorian Automata: A Timeline of Robot History With Photos & Videos  (Read 19768 times)
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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2013, 06:00:23 am »

YES.
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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2013, 10:56:13 pm »

YES.

BIGGER YES.
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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2013, 03:20:00 am »

Something that I just found, that I wanted to post on this forum, and this is as good a place as any:


It is a photo of a motorized giant sloth, being prepared for the 1939 World's Fair. Disney would like to to believe that they invented this stuff in the 1950's.
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« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2013, 02:46:23 am »

That is really interesting and cool!!

I did want to point out that the items before "17th Century – Machine Control" are not entirely in chronological order, particularly the older stuff. That's pretty minor though, and as you say, it's a work in progress.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Edison yet, ha ha. Yeah, he perfected a commercially practical light bulb, but he missed inventing it by almost a hundred years. Wink Looks like Humphrey Davy made the very first one in 1802, although it wasn't very bright, long-lasting, or practical *grin*. Looks like Frederick de Moleyns got the first actual patent on one, although he wasn't the first to produce light by running electricity through a filament of some kind.

You know, I vaguely remember hearing about a myth, Greek or Roman (I think maybe Roman?) about a famous smith (possibly Vulcan, which is what makes me think it's Roman) who had built himself a bunch of assistant automata. As I recall, they were built out of brass in the shape of women, and were at least semi-independent. Mind you, it's a myth and not an actual one, but if you think it's relevant I can try and track it down again for you. --Yeah, actually, Wikipedia confirms that it was a myth about Vulcan and that he made "slave-girls out of gold to do his bidding," which fits in pretty well if you're including mythological references. Smiley

This is an impressive undertaking! I imagine it's already been a tonne of hard work. The end result ought to be fantastic! I adore the Japanese automata and get very depressed that I will never build one myself, ha ha.

I liked that chess player, too; I suspect the Foglios based their own chess-playing automata (her name escapes me at the moment but she was one of the famous Nine Muses) on that one.

Hm. My four-year-old folds up pretty small. I wonder if I could teach her to play chess?  Grin
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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2013, 05:14:21 am »

The "Mechanical Turk" hoax chess player is a very famous Victorian automata; I did a research paper on robotics in high school, and it was mentioned in the introductions of several books that I read. It also lends its name to the Amazon Mechanical Turk (https://www.mturk.com/mturk/welcome) web site.

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« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2013, 03:23:00 am »



No, this is not a prop from Sherlock Holmes vs. the Terminator. This is an antique prosthetic hand from World of Steam (https://www.facebook.com/TheWorldOfSteam) on facebook. I thought that this was an appropriate place to post the photo.
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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2013, 09:04:12 pm »

At the earlier end of the timeline I am surprised that Hero's Aeolipile steam machine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile isnt included.

I would also think that the Antikythera mechanism   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism         must feature
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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2013, 10:28:24 pm »

At the earlier end of the timeline I am surprised that Hero's Aeolipile steam machine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile isnt included.

I would also think that the Antikythera mechanism   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism         must feature



The Antikythera mechanism was left off because it was to be included in a separate timeline of computing machinery. Hero's device was left out for similar reasons. But I might go back an insert the Aeolipile as a landmark historical event, the same way that I included Victoria's coronation and death.
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« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2013, 09:47:57 pm »

At the earlier end of the timeline I am surprised that Hero's Aeolipile steam machine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile isnt included.

I would also think that the Antikythera mechanism   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism         must feature


The Antikythera mechanism was left off because it was to be included in a separate timeline of computing machinery. Hero's device was left out for similar reasons. But I might go back an insert the Aeolipile as a landmark historical event, the same way that I included Victoria's coronation and death.


The two timelines will surely twine together?

The interesting thing about these two items is that they show that the ancient greeks had all they needed to start the 18th century industrial revolution, but they didnt do it. There are many suggestions why but most persuasive is there seemed to be no need: they could achieve what was necessary at the time by human power etc.
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« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2013, 09:55:55 pm »

I think that if the mechanized loom and other industrial machinery had been invented, the definition of "necessary" would have expanded.
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2014, 05:33:33 am »

I just found this video about the mechanical turk:
chess master automaton The Turk Hoax resurrected by rich guy


I've added it to the timeline, and there is is so that past readers don't have to comb through the timeline a second time.
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« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2014, 05:45:02 am »

Another video of Japanese automata.
The most famous Japanese "Karakuri" automata that have made 200 years ago.

The Japanese machines were built with limited access to metal, and look as if they could be easier for hobbyists to build than their European counterparts.
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« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2014, 07:31:42 am »

Another video of Japanese automata.


The Japanese machines were built with limited access to metal, and look as if they could be easier for hobbyists to build than their European counterparts.


Your link was broken somehow

http://youtu.be/i5zYK9FxORI
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« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2014, 07:40:35 pm »

Fixed it.
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« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2015, 05:28:29 am »

I'm looking at this after not looking at it for more than a year, and I don't remember two thirds of it.
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« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2016, 02:34:29 am »

After the bizarre events in today's news, I felt that my timeline was due for a new addition. Last night in Dallas, after the killing of five police by a deranged sniper in the wake of a political demonstration, police made use of automation to kill the sniper. I feel that this modern event fulfills the prophecy of early science fiction, not to mention certain article in a science magazine, and so deserves a mention here.
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« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2016, 06:23:10 pm »

Another addition: Under the heading "Kaiju Robot" I have added youtube videos of the replica Gakutensoku robot and the animated version that appeared in the anime "Doomed Megalopolis".
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« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2016, 12:13:04 am »

One that I wanted to record here before I forgot it:

Silver swan automaton


I will add this to the actual timeline when I have more time
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« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2017, 12:05:05 am »

Another one that I may eventually add:
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/08/06/the-iron-hand-of-a-mercenary-made-for-a-16th-century-german-knight-3/
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« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2017, 01:44:08 pm »

That hinge looks a little too modern.
All of it seems too clean and perfect.
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« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2017, 02:55:27 am »

That hinge looks a little too modern.
All of it seems too clean and perfect.

Maybe. Internet fact checking is often poor. I will have to see if I can find a verifying secondary source. Maybe the hand in the illustration is a modern recreation from a historic description, or maybe just a grabbed image to illustrate a rushed news article. The fingers definitely don't look period.
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« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2017, 02:20:37 am »

Understood, and sorry if that came off wrong. I just wanted to question it as it is and not of your doing.

I'm assuming it's a fairly modern interpretation.
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« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2017, 03:49:14 am »

There is a Wikipedia page for Götz von Berlichingen which shows sketches of the hand, but not the hand itself.
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« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2017, 04:25:51 am »

Here is a link ( translated benefit of google) to the museum that has the arm:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.landesstelle.de/handprothese-des-goetz-von-berlichingen/&prev=search

You would be surprised a the high level of craftsmanship, fit, and finish that was turned out by the master craftsmen of the period.
These same fellows regularly built clocks and instruments, it was all a matter of getting a top craftsman and paying him for the time and materials required.

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