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James Harrison
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« Reply #1725 on: November 18, 2017, 12:17:48 pm »

The jury is still out on the cattle wagon- it's going to basically depend on my mood and temper when I get around to looking at it again whether it gets a full rebuild or cannibalised for bits. 

Progress on some other bits and pieces. 

A pair of Parkside Dundas LNER vans, converted into Great Central vans of the unfitted variety. 



It's a bit of a stretch to call them conversions really.  The only alterations neccessary were to omit the vacuum cylinders and smooth off the raised 'FISH' lettering on the doors.  Oh, and paint them in grey rather than red oxide of course.

I also mentioned the other day that I had bought some carriages from an auction site. 



They are absolutely beautifully finished, to the point that I'm willing to accept their lack of interiors as to mess with them for the sake of messing might result in broken models.  I have instead limited my meddling to fitting buckeye couplings.  Either these carriages have been built without bearings, or the bearings have seized, because they don't roll very easily.  I'm going to have a look later at working some candle wax around the axles with a cocktail stick. 

Also with these three carriages, which arrived finished, are two carriage bodies and two kits for carriage underframes.  Eventually then I will have two rakes each of five short carriages- you may recall I built a few of these kits myself late last year/ early this year.   
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« Reply #1726 on: November 18, 2017, 01:04:33 pm »

Is there any room left in your house for people, James?  Grin
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« Reply #1727 on: November 18, 2017, 01:24:56 pm »

Is there any room left in your house for people, James?  Grin

Just barely.  I'm working on rectifying that; getting a lovely big pre-dreadnought battleship for Christmas which should solve the problem nicely. 
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« Reply #1728 on: November 18, 2017, 09:26:25 pm »

Bargain time!

Got three Milbro coaches in reasonable condition for 60 GBP on Fleabay.
After the usual repairs (loose wheels and stuck couplers) they look quite good along with the one I bought on a school trip to London back on 1995.
Hornby Speical tank has enough power to move the lot.
Pics to follow.
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« Reply #1729 on: November 18, 2017, 11:41:23 pm »

Is there any room left in your house for people, James?  Grin

Just barely.  I'm working on rectifying that; getting a lovely big pre-dreadnought battleship for Christmas which should solve the problem nicely. 

Yes, I can just see a dreadnought on chocks sitting up nicely in your back (or front) yard!
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« Reply #1730 on: November 19, 2017, 02:19:08 am »

Someone around my way makes ships like that. He had to extend his house somewhat.
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« Reply #1731 on: November 19, 2017, 12:29:56 pm »

Someon e around my way makes ships like that. He had to extend his house somewhat.


I used to build the Airfix 1/600 models.  I've still got a fair few of those but every so often I have a clear out and one or two bite the dust.  I have an idea for a 'core collection' that I probably would never get rid of and the remainder survive until I decide to get bored with them... or until I decide I need the room for something more in line with my interests, which is to say WWI military equipment.  I'll most likely end up with some very old 1/600 Airfix models, a couple of ther oddments, a small collection of 1/700 Trumpeter WWI models and a smaller collection of 1/350 WWI models (in addition to the Hobby Boss Lord Nelson there is also apparently a Seydlitz coming from the same stable which.... well German battlecruisers are to my eye amongst the most graceful ships to have been built- also not forgetting the ancient Revell Emden/ Dresden which also builds up into a nice model). 

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« Reply #1732 on: November 19, 2017, 12:34:36 pm »

Bargain time!

Got three Milbro coaches in reasonable condition for 60 GBP on Fleabay.
After the usual repairs (loose wheels and stuck couplers) they look quite good along with the one I bought on a school trip to London back on 1995.
Hornby Speical tank has enough power to move the lot.
Pics to follow.


Now that is a bargain!- you pay about that now for one Hornby OO carriage.  I'm just reading up on Milbro- they seem to have been roughly contemporary with Hornby O gauge, Bassett-Lowke and the Leeds Model Company?- 1920s/ 30s?  I'm looking forward to seeing them, they appear to have made some interesting things. 
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« Reply #1733 on: November 19, 2017, 02:48:33 pm »

Someon e around my way makes ships like that. He had to extend his house somewhat.


I used to build the Airfix 1/600 models.  I've still got a fair few of those but every so often I have a clear out and one or two bite the dust.  I have an idea for a 'core collection' that I probably would never get rid of and the remainder survive until I decide to get bored with them... or until I decide I need the room for something more in line with my interests, which is to say WWI military equipment.  I'll most likely end up with some very old 1/600 Airfix models, a couple of ther oddments, a small collection of 1/700 Trumpeter WWI models and a smaller collection of 1/350 WWI models (in addition to the Hobby Boss Lord Nelson there is also apparently a Seydlitz coming from the same stable which.... well German battlecruisers are to my eye amongst the most graceful ships to have been built- also not forgetting the ancient Revell Emden/ Dresden which also builds up into a nice model). 




This guy had a Titanic in (1/78? IIRC?) and similarly large Yamato and others. Last I heard of him he was researching the Great Eastern.
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« Reply #1734 on: November 19, 2017, 05:07:55 pm »

A 1/78 Titanic would be something like 12' long.  Great Eastern would be tiny in comparison- clocking in at the same scale at about 9'.  I would suggest keeping them in a shed, but a boathouse might be more appropriate!
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« Reply #1735 on: November 19, 2017, 06:44:50 pm »

Here they are:













Third one is the coach I bought in London in 1995. Except for wheels, axles and minor details they are wooden.
The doors, windows etc. are printed on thin paper which ist stuck to the sides.

The Hornby "special" tank easily moved the lot. I have no idea why some Hornby models are called special.
Due to the wooden bodies these coaches have a unique sound.
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« Reply #1736 on: November 19, 2017, 11:31:58 pm »

Great setup, Bullet!
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« Reply #1737 on: November 20, 2017, 12:33:37 am »

A 1/78 Titanic would be something like 12' long.  Great Eastern would be tiny in comparison- clocking in at the same scale at about 9'.  I would suggest keeping them in a shed, but a boathouse might be more appropriate!

He built in "box" scale...
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« Reply #1738 on: November 22, 2017, 06:44:53 pm »

For the last few months I have been looking for a specialised freight train to model. I have, in the past, built a bogie fish van or two and had another gifted to me, so you might be thinking a fish train would answer the bill, but my understanding is that fish trains usually ran to 30 or more vehicles, just a little too long for my tastes and storage.



A bit more manageable, I think.  The loco- yes, you can get those quite easily. The brakevan?- built one of those previously and got the drawings for an improved version.  It's the cattle wagons that need a bit of thinking about.

So, having a look at what is available (and more importantly available on my budget of maximum £20 per wagon).  The Bachmann ex-LMS cattle wagon- the framing is wrong.  The Oxford LNER wagon- well there's the obvious issue of the sides being identical rather than handed, then the framing being of approximately the right pattern but the wrong material (angle iron rather than timber).

It did give me an idea though- the Dapol (ex-Airfix) kits.  Well, I had one of those to hand (one I built many years ago) and offering it up to the drawing in Tatlow's LNER wagons book suggested that the overall dimensions were about right.  Worth a shot?



Well, this is what we're aiming at.



And the starting point.  First impressions?  Overall dimensions are suitable, framing is about the right pattern but the wrong material, the doors are wrong and there are probably a multitude of little details that are wrong but would pass my 3' viewing distance yardstick.  Better put in an order for a lot of plastic strip and sheet....



To see some progress at an early stage the first thing I did was to build the chassis.  This is a remarkably robust set of mouldings and went together quite well, once the flash had been removed.



Each panel of the body is an individual piece.  Making for an easier job of the conversion- especially when it's all still on the sprues!



First job is to cut away the excess strapping to the bottom of the body panels.  We don't need it for these wagons.  Then the angle iron strapping has notches cut into it at the joints.



Why would we cut those notches in?  Because we're turning the angle iron into timber- a strip of 0.5mm square section plastic down each side of it to bulk it out.  Don't forget to add the extra vertical to the top of the body panels.  Then some plastic sheet into the corner.

Well, I managed to butcher two panels- leaving another pair to look at, and the ends, and the other five kits, but then the pink elephants told me to stop for the evening.  I don't know where they went last night after I packed up but they weren't at the table this morning.
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« Reply #1739 on: November 23, 2017, 09:38:43 pm »

Our antique model railway forum is holding a competition.
"Trains loaded with wood"

this is my entry:

Märklin GR loco:












I had to stop it on the mainline in order to get the whole thing on one photo. Seems like the driver was surprised to find the signal showing stop that he slammed the brakes hard enough to derail one wagon.....
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« Reply #1740 on: November 23, 2017, 09:46:35 pm »

I like!  There's something impressive about long freight trains.
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« Reply #1741 on: November 27, 2017, 06:37:50 pm »

well German battlecruisers are to my eye amongst the most graceful ships to have been built- also not forgetting the ancient Revell Emden/ Dresden which also builds up into a nice model). 




I quite concur on the battlecruisers!  SMS Derfflinger is perhaps my favorite.
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« Reply #1742 on: November 27, 2017, 07:10:48 pm »

Well, I think it's time I gave an update on Trelawney. Not much progress has been made due to the time I've been spending on other projects and other concerns (my plans to wire it up and add the point rodding have been weighing on my mind somewhat I'll admit), but the ground cover is about 80% complete (I'll post pictures when it's fully finished), and I have 3 wagons fresh from 'Longmoor Works' waiting to show off their new liveries.

The first is a Peco GWR pattern Cattle Wagon (coincidence?  Huh Yes) which I've weathered subtly and can be seen in pristine condition in my previous update.


The second is a 10ft milk tank wagon (just to add to the West Country/former GWR feel of the layout) which again is a Peco RTR model which I've weathered.


The last also featured in my previous update, though in unpainted condition and is a Peco kit built 15ft tarpaulin wagon painted with Railmatch Early Freight Grey. It's still awaiting transfers and its' tarpaulin (I have an order with my local model shop for some appropriate tarpaulins and shall get the necessary transfers once its' come in).
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« Reply #1743 on: November 27, 2017, 11:12:02 pm »

I like ALL this stuff!
Agreed, there is something about a long train of goods wagons that is quite stirring. I used to have to cross a railway line every school day, coming and going, and sometimes there would be a very long and/or very heavy train, with extra engines - happy day!  Grin
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« Reply #1744 on: November 28, 2017, 06:30:05 pm »

well German battlecruisers are to my eye amongst the most graceful ships to have been built- also not forgetting the ancient Revell Emden/ Dresden which also builds up into a nice model).  




I quite concur on the battlecruisers!  SMS Derfflinger is perhaps my favorite.




Oh, definitely the Derfflinger class is about my favourite of the lot.  Particularly the Hindenburg, which was fitted with a tripod mast making it look even more imposing.  



But in lieu of that, a Seydlitz is very, very welcome indeed.  (I'd just sooner it were in 1/700 scale rather than 1/350!)
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« Reply #1745 on: November 28, 2017, 08:16:50 pm »

Well, I think it's time I gave an update on Trelawney. Not much progress has been made due to the time I've been spending on other projects and other concerns (my plans to wire it up and add the point rodding have been weighing on my mind somewhat I'll admit), but the ground cover is about 80% complete (I'll post pictures when it's fully finished), and I have 3 wagons fresh from 'Longmoor Works' waiting to show off their new liveries.

The first is a Peco GWR pattern Cattle Wagon (coincidence?  Huh Yes) which I've weathered subtly and can be seen in pristine condition in my previous update.


The second is a 10ft milk tank wagon (just to add to the West Country/former GWR feel of the layout) which again is a Peco RTR model which I've weathered.


The last also featured in my previous update, though in unpainted condition and is a Peco kit built 15ft tarpaulin wagon painted with Railmatch Early Freight Grey. It's still awaiting transfers and its' tarpaulin (I have an order with my local model shop for some appropriate tarpaulins and shall get the necessary transfers once its' come in).


Nice! 
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« Reply #1746 on: November 28, 2017, 08:22:48 pm »

And speaking of cattle wagons....

When I spoke about my cattle train last, I had got the chassis built.... for one wagon.... and a few body panels altered. 

Well, things have moved on a little since then.  I still only have the one wagon, but all of the body panels have been attended to- at the cost of half a packet of plastic strip- (I'll need at least three packets of that stuff to do all six of these!) and then I was able to build the bodywork, paying particular attentionto keeping everything square. 



I then built the doors, unfortunately I didn't take any photos of this process but the lower door re-used a part of the ones supplied in the kit whilst the upper doors were built from scratch.  Then into the paintshops. 





Those doors are quite flimsy, and although it looks odd it is all square!- I'm now fettling the roof to get a good fit and I think the strapping could do with some smoothing down and filling too.  Quite difficult to see exactly where it isn't quite right when it is plain bright white plastic, easier when there's some paint on it. 
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« Reply #1747 on: November 29, 2017, 05:58:58 pm »

well German battlecruisers are to my eye amongst the most graceful ships to have been built- also not forgetting the ancient Revell Emden/ Dresden which also builds up into a nice model).  




I quite concur on the battlecruisers!  SMS Derfflinger is perhaps my favorite.




Oh, definitely the Derfflinger class is about my favourite of the lot.  Particularly the Hindenburg, which was fitted with a tripod mast making it look even more imposing.  



But in lieu of that, a Seydlitz is very, very welcome indeed.  (I'd just sooner it were in 1/700 scale rather than 1/350!)


I'd never seen the tripod mast variant.  It is beautiful & I love it too!
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« Reply #1748 on: November 29, 2017, 07:35:14 pm »

Actually, I could buy a 1/700 Derfflinger or Lutzow.  (Flyhawk do both of those).  But no Hindenburg
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« Reply #1749 on: November 29, 2017, 11:02:41 pm »

Haven't built a model for so long!

My younger brother liked to build WWII kits and paint them up. Every now and then we would take them out into the yard and set up them up diorama style. I'd take photos for him - they turned out pretty well. I think I still have one or two in my photograph box. Must excavate them sometime and see if he remembers doing them.

There's a thought for a Christmas/Birthday present for him - a model! Bet he hasn't built one for years either! I might get him a Liberator B24 - our dad piloted one in WWII, and he could paint it up with dad's colours and number!
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