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Author Topic: Three Legs are better than Two  (Read 39241 times)
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« Reply #400 on: March 19, 2013, 03:56:55 pm »

There is an element of time shifting going on.  Clearly, Herr Doktor's device didn't exist in actual Victorian times so it is part of some alternate reality time line.  In that time line the tripod appears on Mars at a date MUCH later than when Curiosity arrived. Just a thought. Either way or not at all works for me.
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« Reply #401 on: March 19, 2013, 04:25:19 pm »

How about a skeleton with a horned helmet? Because everyone knows that the Vikings got there first.
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« Reply #402 on: March 19, 2013, 04:37:51 pm »

Crashed remains of a Cavor Sphere from the first expeditionary Force? You could have the Martian Walker and the Gladstone fighting over it, presumably the Gladstones arrived on Mars in something, dropping from orbit in a Cavor Sphere would make sense, so  a crashed sphere with parts of a second Gladsone visible in the wreckage would be quite intriguing.
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« Reply #403 on: March 19, 2013, 06:27:59 pm »

may be that the expedition of the Dök. discover the first assistant to Emilio Herrera.
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/ModernMechanix/10-1936/flying_suit.jpg Wink

(i´m working on this suit to 1/6 scale.)
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« Reply #404 on: March 19, 2013, 06:52:30 pm »

Every time someone mentions a scene, all I can think of is Captain Hugh 'Bullshot' Crummond reminding Rosemary Fenton how we English do so detest a scene in public  Grin

Anyway, whatever the good Döktor decides, I'm afraid I must almost insist (with extreme politeness of course) on it being filmed stop-motion style á la Ray Harryhausen. If that were to happen, I believe I may just spontaneously combust...
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« Reply #405 on: March 20, 2013, 12:22:23 am »

On the subject of Martian lifeforms.

Let's hope that Curiosity doesn't find a cat.
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« Reply #406 on: March 26, 2013, 06:10:39 pm »

Or if it does, it's a cat with three legs and trilateral symmetry.

Meanwhile, I've made a start on a base:



Routed from18mm MDF, with a decorative edge, and a 6mm MDF platter on top to build the landscape on, it's just under 600mm across, and that's a foot long rule for scale; just sitting on the gas fire, waiting for the second coat of sanding sealer to dry.

EDIT: Rubbed down and a coat of primer; and a tank, for scale:



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« Reply #407 on: March 27, 2013, 07:13:53 pm »

Onto the landscape, started with a wall of sheet styrene around the platter, taped in position and sprayed with mould release, then most of a 750ml can of spray polyurethane foam was applied to the base:



When set(ish), I started to remove the excess foam, and carve a Martian landscape:



I found a few interesting 'voids' in the semi-cured foam, one of which became a cave under a ledge, when I was happy with what I had, I added the last of the foam to build up a rockface at the back:



More carving and refining tomorrow, then a coat of plaster, or possibly resin...
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« Reply #408 on: March 27, 2013, 07:25:50 pm »

For a moment, I thought you were baking a pie.  Grin
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« Reply #409 on: March 27, 2013, 07:30:32 pm »

Wow this is great! nice paint too
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« Reply #410 on: March 27, 2013, 07:33:30 pm »

While still wet I'd suggest covering the plaster/resin with brick dust. I'm sure you have techniques for crushing bricks somewhere in your book of How To Do Everything Brilliantly.
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« Reply #411 on: March 27, 2013, 09:51:11 pm »

For a moment, I thought you were baking a pie.  Grin

I thought exactly the same thing  Cheesy

It's coming along nicely though - looking forward to the finished product.
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« Reply #412 on: March 28, 2013, 11:04:36 am »

…I found a few interesting 'voids' in the semi-cured foam, one of which became a cave under a ledge, when I was happy with what I had, I added the last of the foam to build up a rockface at the back…
That's looking jolly splendid.

What will be residing in the cave?

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« Reply #413 on: March 28, 2013, 12:29:32 pm »

A Martian?!
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« Reply #414 on: March 28, 2013, 12:48:23 pm »

That would be remarkably pertinent...
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« Reply #415 on: March 28, 2013, 01:51:36 pm »

Martian? Well a Martian beast of some kind, possibly...

Tried the tank in a possible position today:



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« Reply #416 on: March 28, 2013, 02:35:16 pm »

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Tried the tank in a possible position today:


In the garden by the shed? I'd have thought some sort of cabinet in the lounge but hey, it's your gig.
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« Reply #417 on: March 28, 2013, 03:02:54 pm »

It's the build up of noxious gases.

What have you been eating Herr Dok? That cake looked a bit dodgy!
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« Reply #418 on: March 28, 2013, 04:15:35 pm »

hmm, lemon meringue pie !
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« Reply #419 on: March 28, 2013, 04:57:16 pm »

Only a temporary place, Capt. Dirigible, and you'll all be pleased to see the pie now has a crust:



Partly red dyed papier mache, partly render plaster, just need a day or so to fully dry out, and I can start to add some more sculpted rocks in terracotta air clay.

I've also removed the crust from some of the more interesting 'globs' of foam, and I'm really pleased with how the ledge and cave have turned out- I wanted something akin to Vasquez Rocks, and I got it accidentally!

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« Reply #420 on: March 28, 2013, 05:15:50 pm »

Well you have Gorn and done it!

I like the idea of a Martian Irregular hiding in the cave.
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« Reply #421 on: March 28, 2013, 05:16:33 pm »

I like the technique with the papier mache and plaster. Often when I make things like this I use a slurry made of slightly watered down filler with sand mixed into it, and then painted onto the base.

I'm always vaguely surprised that if you use sand on a base it doesn't look like "real" sand until you paint it. i guess it's just the different scale.
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« Reply #422 on: March 28, 2013, 07:21:01 pm »

I like the technique with the papier mache and plaster. Often when I make things like this I use a slurry made of slightly watered down filler with sand mixed into it, and then painted onto the base.

I'm always vaguely surprised that if you use sand on a base it doesn't look like "real" sand until you paint it. i guess it's just the different scale.


I'm right with you with the sand thing: 30-odd years ago I took an old Matchbox B-20whatevah and 'crashed' it onto a square of plywood (it might have been the door from my bedside cabinet), and built up sand dunes out of plaster sprinkled with sand from my sandpit (spoilt? No, I DESERVED it!), and it just didn't work until I gave it a coat of the sandy emulsion my late father insisted made the utility room look brighter...

Meanwhile, back in the present day: managed to 'cure' the plaster, and some of the papier mache (it says two days on the packet, but I have a gas heater and a heat gun!), so I've added some more plasterwork, and posed the tank on the landscape, with the usual passing Panzer tank driver:



Maybe start sculpting some more, er, sculptural, rock tomorrow...
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« Reply #423 on: March 28, 2013, 07:32:58 pm »

I was having a look at some of the pictures from the latest Mars rover; have you seen the true colour (or barely modidied in most cases) pictures?



From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars
Not sure how applicaple they are, but I did find them remarkable an they may be good for inspiration.
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« Reply #424 on: March 28, 2013, 07:40:17 pm »

I'm reliably informed, by the BBC's Horizon, IIRC), that all the images in the 70's and 80's from Mars were false-coloured black and white, as they didn't have the bandwidth for colour at that time, and it's really bizarre to see that Mars actually looks a lot like the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan...
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