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Question: Do you prefer being called a "steampunk" or a "steampunker?"
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« on: July 21, 2007, 04:41:20 am »

This is based entirely on my observations here.
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2007, 04:46:57 am »

i am not either, i am a victorian science fiction enthusiast.
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2007, 04:49:38 am »

That's only good with............

Hey! on that note what would be a good term for non-steampunk(er)s? How 'bout civilians?
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2007, 05:17:23 am »

I've always called mainstream types 'danes (as in mun).
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2007, 06:19:13 am »

Steampunk, for me.

Don't know much people calling themselves "punkers"...
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2007, 06:30:23 am »

I don't like real cats at all, but so far I have found myself borrowing annexing beat jargon I.E. Steamcat/Kitten
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2007, 06:49:22 am »

I chose other, I call my style/tastes/whatever steampunk but I try and refrain from giving myself a title like that, too often it ends in wankery.  Not to say everyone who does is bad, it's just not something I'm into.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2007, 10:55:10 am »

I like the term "etherpunk", myself.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2007, 12:52:40 pm »

I just refer to myself simply as a "Steampunk Enthusiast" whenever I'm describing my interests to someone who doesn't know.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2007, 01:59:28 pm »

hmm if pushed to answer between Steampunk & Steampunker I should say Steampunk, but either way there doesn't seem to be terribly much difference...
-I suppose I use the name Steampunk because its convenient as people (occasionally) know what I mean.

What about "techno-luddites" as a name?
-on that note does anyone want to buy a paradox-in-a-box only 3d!
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2007, 02:28:15 pm »

I define myself as a refined scoundrel that likes his punk steamy.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2007, 03:03:40 pm »

I chose other, because the "punk" part is a misnomer and draws the wrong kind of interest. Perhaps something like "Steamer" or "Mechanonaut" would be more a descriptive. Soccer (or football) players at my old high school were called "Sweeds," so maybe something totally off the cuff like "Wafflers."

Then I think about what science fiction or fantasy fans are called . . . that is, science fiction or fantasy fans.
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2007, 03:58:03 pm »

I prefer to be addressed at el Magnifico
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2007, 04:43:40 pm »

LOL - "I like waffles"  *waits for it..*
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2007, 05:15:04 pm »

I call myself a steampunker, for me the punk part is very important so I like to have that connotation involved, the other people in the world, the non-steampunks, I call conformist sheeple as there are no real individuals anymore what with everyone dressing the way the "gap" and other stores tells them and just doing what everyone else does all the time,,,,,,,sorry for the rant, I tend to go off on the wrongs of modern society every once in a while.
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2007, 06:02:40 pm »

Hah ha! Your "Sheeples" are my "Domestic House Cows."

And on the topic of steampunk, someone called me steampunk about 10 years ago, and I took it as a compliment. In many regards, I'm more of a rivet head, except that I actually know what a rivet is, and how to use one. However, I just call myself "bad-ass" (or B'Dass). Wink
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2007, 06:35:44 pm »

For some reason, I use the term "steamkid" or "steamkids," but mostly for myself.

I probably just annoyed the hell out of a bunch of people here, but I didn't mean to.
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2007, 09:36:39 pm »

I call myself a steampunker, for me the punk part is very important so I like to have that connotation involved, the other people in the world, the non-steampunks, I call conformist sheeple as there are no real individuals anymore what with everyone dressing the way the "gap" and other stores tells them and just doing what everyone else does all the time,,,,,,,sorry for the rant, I tend to go off on the wrongs of modern society every once in a while.

I find it very perplexing to see people say that there are no real individuals "anymore" in terms of dress.  We probably live in the era that's the most accepting of personal idiosyncracy in terms of appearance, perhaps in all of recorded history.  A really old yearbook will show graduating classes that are nearly identical in terms of style.  Being "strange" in modern society will get us peculiar looks.  In the 19th century, and even for most of the 20th, it could have resulted in much more severe consequences, unless the individual had a great deal of money or status.

And to keep this closer to topic: I prefer steampunk.

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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2007, 10:44:42 pm »

I'm in the 'other' category...
I'm sort of Astro-nautical-mountaineering-experditionist avec goggles. Cool

But, give it about 18 months, I suspect there will be tabloid headlines screeching of the sinister evils of Steampunk... Sad
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2007, 11:19:22 pm »

It's either way for me. I use "steampunker" myself, but it's just a personal preference. It does not matter whether the last two letters are included in the term when addressing me. Although I tend not to describe myself as anything, I am simply "me".
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2007, 11:50:47 pm »

Quietly, a voice from the back of the room states:

"A Economist friend of mine said that the resent trend in the world events reflect events from 100 years ago. Both in events and in economics, and while the names of these events have changed the basis of these events have not.

Interesting to say the least. If this is the case and we are just in a new cycle of the same old history, then doesn't that mean that "Steampunks(ers)" are just the modern social cluster of inventors, tinkerers, philosophers, and thinkers?

It's an interesting theory to pursue, but only a theory. Either way I don't really care what others call me as long as it's not "Steamer". That's just wrong."
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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2007, 11:59:21 pm »

Either way I don't really care what others call me as long as it's not "Steamer". That's just wrong."
I'd have a problem with "steaming".
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2007, 06:50:16 am »

I have not ever had a need to place labels on myself or others. So for me Steampunk/Victorian Science Fiction/NeoVictorianism etc is just one of my interests. It is currently one of the major interests I spend my time on.

I think it interesting those who talk about sheeple or other conformists as lacking individualism. I personally often resemble one of the most boring conformist people around, until someone takes the time to talk to me. In fact so does my best friend. She and I are stay at home mothers to 2 children who have husbands in the tech industry. We both do a variety of crafts and other "typical" activities. However if you were to overhear our conversations we talk about science fiction (we both met our husbands at science fiction conventions) , news articles, interesting technical articles about new discoveries in science, our children, latest books we are reading, medical stuff, new things we discovered doing medical research etc. We think and we read yet to most people we look rather conformist. Don't always judge people by how they dress. I honestly would look at how they react to you if you are dressed differently and use that to form a starting point for conversation. If you are going to be confrontational and judgemental expect to be treated differently.
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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2007, 08:41:10 am »

I call myself a steampunker, for me the punk part is very important so I like to have that connotation involved, the other people in the world, the non-steampunks, I call conformist sheeple as there are no real individuals anymore what with everyone dressing the way the "gap" and other stores tells them and just doing what everyone else does all the time,,,,,,,sorry for the rant, I tend to go off on the wrongs of modern society every once in a while.

I find it very perplexing to see people say that there are no real individuals "anymore" in terms of dress.  We probably live in the era that's the most accepting of personal idiosyncracy in terms of appearance, perhaps in all of recorded history.  A really old yearbook will show graduating classes that are nearly identical in terms of style.  Being "strange" in modern society will get us peculiar looks.  In the 19th century, and even for most of the 20th, it could have resulted in much more severe consequences, unless the individual had a great deal of money or status.
Thankyou Mlle Palmer, I was just trying to formulate much the same reply myself.

Our dress "rules" now are far more relaxed, and our dress styles far more varied (ignoring class differences) than at any other point in history.

Conformity is not a modern trait, and nor is it a solely human trait.
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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2007, 01:28:22 pm »

I don't actually self-identify as a steampunk, merely appreciate it a great deal, but 'steampunker' sounds utterly bizarre to me.

And saying that all non-steampunks are sheeple ... well, your arrogance and ignorance is pretty damn appalling. Yes, of course there are 'sheeple' - plenty of them - but setting your subculture so high and mighty above the rest is ridiculous.
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