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Author Topic: On the topic of Pocket watches.  (Read 2536 times)
Drake White
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« on: July 12, 2007, 02:12:21 am »

Howdy all.

On my seemingly never ending quest to find my perfect pocket watch I've come up with a few questions I need a little help with from some of you more in the know.

First up brand. I've seen quite a few rather nice looking modern pocket and wrist watches from Russian manufacturers, mostly Poljot and Orion, but I've absolutely no information on Russian watches these days and if their worth buying.
Charles Hubert also do some nice looking watches but like the Russian watches I've no idea on quality and if their worth paying attention too.

Now this may possibly sound like an odd thing to ask if I'm totally off, but am I right in thinking a good rule of thumb is 'don't buy from Hong Kong?'.

As I mentioned I'm kinda on a scavenger hunt for my 'perfect' pocket watch, and am only really (at least atm) looking at modern pieces because from all the vintage watches I've seen I don't think my dream watch actually exists in anything other than a modern piece.
Although I'd love to be proven wrong. What I really really want is a double hunter skeletonized mechanical watch in a metal finish (nickel/ silver/ stainless steel/ chrome/ gunmetal) either brushed or matte ('shiny' finishes always seem to look blindingly garish) and with a plain unembossed/engraved case. I've found a couple of modern pieces that are close, short on one or two criteria but I'm still looking for the holy grail so-to-speak.

Anywho any and all helps most welcome, been looking for so long now I'm not in any rush.
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2007, 04:11:35 pm »

Poljot and Orion (and the other Russian) watches are a mixed bag. The movements design is pretty much at a  60's Swiss level.
The real problem is quality control. Every single Russian watch I've owned has broken in one way or another, and as my watchmaker says "not worth fixing". Parts are another issue, you can't easily get them. You CAN get lucky and get a good one, but I consider Russian watches to be 'disposable"
 Charles Hubert is what we watch enthusiast/collectors call "Germasian". Its a generic term for a watch that appears to be from an old established manufacturerm but in reality is fairly news, simply having bought up an old name. Their watches use a lot of Asian parts.
That's ok, if its a Japanese Miyota movement, but Chinese movements (mostly from the Million Smart Company) can be dodgy.
The design isn't bad, but like the Russians, quality control is abysmal. I have seen new Chiese movements with mis-aligned jewels, human hair in the hairspring and keyless works, and with fingerprints all over the plates.
  Best best in vintage pocket watches are the US brands Hamilton, Waltham and Elgin. Easy to repair, good designs, and a fairly good parts availability.  Other choices woulde be Illinois and South bend, but parts are a bit harder to get.
All my pocket watches are vintage, oldest one being from 1888. They all work, and keep excellent time.
  If you're looking for new, I;d say chack out  Longines. Plenty of designs, and good quality as well.

That's my .02, based on quite a few years of collecting and mucking about with watches..

Cheers
Harold

(PS... if you want something rare and unique, keep an eye out for an old Bulova Accutron (the one with the tuning fork movement) pocket watch. Those are uber-cool.


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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2007, 07:15:22 am »

As a related tangent, I've recently found that the Majesti mechanicals are being clearanced out of all of the Walmart stores.  Just so y'all are aware.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2007, 08:40:51 pm »

I found my pocket watch in a shoppe in the local shopping mall in my area. It is a Bariloche, I don't know much about the company, but i enjoy my watch and it was about $80.

Was able to find a picture online of the watch style that i have. It is skeletoned, so you are able to see the mechanics within the watch. now to just find a better chain/clasp for daily use/wear.

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2007, 01:51:27 am »

http://www.tomsawyerwaistcoats.co.uk/subprod/pocket-watches-0000720.aspx

http://www.timecell.co.uk/

http://www.sanfords.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Gents_Rotary_Watches_35.html

http://www.hammacher.com/publish/71701.asp

http://www.woodfordclocks.co.uk/

I quite like some of the time cell ones.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2011, 10:01:03 am »

*ahem*

I just thought I would bring your attention to this, if you haven't already seen it.

http://www.carterstore.com/authentic-models/time-measurement/clocks/

I am going to do a lot of oogling and come Winter Solstice might have to break down. Gorgeous work here...I especially like the Eye of Time clock.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2011, 02:25:35 pm »

I am happy for the time being with two 'Sevices' pocket watches, plain, ordinary, but they seem to do the job.
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