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Author Topic: The Esoteric Order of Transhumanities  (Read 1681 times)
Tajhan
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« on: December 10, 2009, 03:31:08 am »


"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God — but to create Him." - Arthur C. Clarke

"'What is a human being, then?' 'A seed.' 'A... seed?' 'An acorn that is unafraid to destroy itself in growing into a tree.'" - David Zindell, The Broken God


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We Are
The Esoteric Order of Transhumanities

To All Potential Initiates,
We of the Esoteric Order of Transhumanites support the implementation of Mad Science and Technology to the improvement, neigh ascention above the human condition!
But as many of you may have already seen this noble quest is fraught with dangers. It is not only out bodies that are weak, but our mind and soul, advancement is only acceptable when ones soul is pure and mind honed like the scalpels that with shed the flesh!
Along our path we may come across those who have strayed and shed their humanity not for a higher existence but a lower one and it our place to judge these former humans and when necessary; to destroy them!
The simpleminded masses call us witches and the scientific community at large laugh at our rituals but we will prove them wrong in time

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For those with a possibly unhealthy interest in upgrading themselves with clockwork or a steamboiler, or perhaps trading in their old meatsack for a fancy ornate jar in hopes of immortality but temper this with a personal quest for enlightenment, or try to appear to do so.
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T.Taylor the Third
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2009, 06:44:15 pm »

Im in!
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2009, 07:41:24 pm »

i'd like to request admission into this most honorable and august order Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 05:21:20 am »

*sets a series of gears in motion.  Clanks her way in*
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 12:10:57 am »

I'm already a god. Can I still join? Or do I have to become human, and then return to godhood via odd means?
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 07:53:51 pm »

We are all gods

"Thou_Art_God"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_Art_God
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 07:22:05 am »

"If someone asks, are you a god? You say: YES!" - Dr. Peter Venkman

And on that note, add me to the roster.

By the way, are you chaps aware that there is a theme song for the transhumanist movement now?

I am the very model of a singularitarianDQ


Well, unofficially anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2009, 11:37:46 am »

after the application of google I find that I have held such a view all along but thought I made it up. reminds me of when I discovered steampunk....  Cheesy
any way, hello and can I come in?
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yes I am a mad scientist, now live with it.

Tajhan
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2009, 12:03:22 pm »

Excellent, our numbers swell! You are all welcome in Our Esoteric Order!
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2009, 07:22:58 pm »

Count me in, though my participation may be erratic.

I promise I'll be careful with the coils and such, so as not to disrupt the functioning of those whose upgrades may be more...delicately calibrated.  Trust me, I've encountered that issue before.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2009, 07:39:58 pm »

-nods to everyone-
I find this all very interesting.
In one part I want to keep everything natural in my body and in the other part of my mind I want to ascend from it. I do say then, it may be interesting to be a part of such a wonderful group of people. I am afraid that like Sir Tesla, my participation may be erratic.

Magister; I must say! What a wonderful song and video you have found! Simple in love with it. Very catchy tune.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2009, 06:42:11 am »

-nods to everyone-
I find this all very interesting.
In one part I want to keep everything natural in my body and in the other part of my mind I want to ascend from it. I do say then, it may be interesting to be a part of such a wonderful group of people. I am afraid that like Sir Tesla, my participation may be erratic.

Magister; I must say! What a wonderful song and video you have found! Simple in love with it. Very catchy tune.


Thank you! I found the video on a link from Dresden Codak. A webcomic I highly recommend. The Hob story arc actually concludes in what I can only call a transhumanist manifesto, or at least a dire warning against ignoring or attempting to escape the technological singularity. The author also seems to have quite a steampunk streak in him. Here's the first page of the relevant story arc: http://dresdencodak.com/2007/02/08/pom/

Anyway, I don't think the conflicting desires to retain one's natural body versus upgrading it is uncommon at all. For me, I think the main issue is the current impossibility of returning to one's previous state should the upgrade fail, or prove less desirable. Besides which, we are only on the cusp of such technology, and who knows what course the development will take? It's like the Beta and VHS scenario only, if you buy beta, you might never get to switch to VHS.

Right now we have some really impressive mechanical devices coming out, artificial legs that put Olympic sprinters to shame, and powered exoskeletons, in terms of pure physical improvement, but pharmaceuticals continue to stretch biological life spans every year. Every day we learn more about genetic engineering, and we already know how to clone.

I had always figured that mankind would shed its mortality mechanically copying our minds into computers, but it increasingly seems as though biological means of life extension and perfection are closing in.

Which way do you folks think we'll end up going?
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2009, 12:52:32 am »

Thank you! I found the video on a link from Dresden Codak. A webcomic I highly recommend. The Hob story arc actually concludes in what I can only call a transhumanist manifesto, or at least a dire warning against ignoring or attempting to escape the technological singularity. The author also seems to have quite a steampunk streak in him. Here's the first page of the relevant story arc: http://dresdencodak.com/2007/02/08/pom/


Oh, I read the comic and wow... amazing comic. Read it all. The art, the story, the wit! I recommend it to everyone too. Very smart comic.


Anyway, I don't think the conflicting desires to retain one's natural body versus upgrading it is uncommon at all. For me, I think the main issue is the current impossibility of returning to one's previous state should the upgrade fail, or prove less desirable. Besides which, we are only on the cusp of such technology, and who knows what course the development will take? It's like the Beta and VHS scenario only, if you buy beta, you might never get to switch to VHS.

Right now we have some really impressive mechanical devices coming out, artificial legs that put Olympic sprinters to shame, and powered exoskeletons, in terms of pure physical improvement, but pharmaceuticals continue to stretch biological life spans every year. Every day we learn more about genetic engineering, and we already know how to clone.

I had always figured that mankind would shed its mortality mechanically copying our minds into computers, but it increasingly seems as though biological means of life extension and perfection are closing in.

Which way do you folks think we'll end up going?


I would like to see us get past humanity and become something more...
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Tajhan
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2010, 09:19:55 pm »

Thank you! I found the video on a link from Dresden Codak. A webcomic I highly recommend. The Hob story arc actually concludes in what I can only call a transhumanist manifesto, or at least a dire warning against ignoring or attempting to escape the technological singularity. The author also seems to have quite a steampunk streak in him. Here's the first page of the relevant story arc: http://dresdencodak.com/2007/02/08/pom/

Thankyou for the link, a friend recomended the comic to me a while ago but have only just read it. An excellent comic indeed and an excellent story arc which represents the plight of transhumanists well.
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Magister
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2010, 08:40:03 am »

An interesting update on the computerized humans front. It seems the interface method for connecting computers to human brains will be "fiberoptic" in a manner of speaking.

Early experiments in connecting electronics to neurons failed, because the body actively attempts to cover electrodes to keep them from messing with neurons, giving a limited window of functionality of the connection.

However, it seems some progress has been made by using a repurposed virus to insert genes from photo reactive algae into neurons, thus allowing neurons to be manipulated into firing by the application of light. Apparently they got it working on test animals, but have had some "complications" with the human trials.

...I really don't want to think about what exactly that means...

However, this represents a significant breakthrough, in that we now have a workable method for directly interfacing brains with computers. Now the biggest hurdle is cracking the "programming language" of the brain.
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