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Lucius Voltaic
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« on: November 21, 2009, 06:14:55 am »

Good day all,

This club was inspired by a heated discussion that I sparked in the fifth through eighth pages of this thread:

http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19799.0.html

To get the full idea, you may read the thread. If four pages of text-wall gives you TL;DR syndrome, then here is our mission statement in short:

The members of the Gnostocratic Society believe that the pursuit of knowledge is a wonderful thing and that truth is always to be striven after. We believe that knowledge is power, that such power will aid us to do good and splendid deeds that will change the world around us for the better, and that knowledge is a thing of beauty to be sought and cherished. Moreover, we believe that the knowledge which grants us understanding of the workings of the universe, the depths of the soul, or the mysteries of philosophy, is the greatest knowledge of all, for it leads to great wisdom. And, therefore, with truth and charity in our hearts, our minds our greatest tools, and the pursuit of knowledge always before us, let us go forth and bring the light of Reason to all peoples.

The motto of the Gnostocratic Society is: De Scientia Veritas -- "From Knowledge, Truth"

The following post is reserved for a list of members.
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Lucius Voltaic
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2009, 06:15:35 am »

List of members:

Lucius Voltaic, founder

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GideonFaile
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2009, 06:42:01 am »

Sign me up!
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2009, 06:53:32 am »

I'm in.
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2009, 06:58:05 am »

Gideon Faile; reporting in.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2009, 07:09:29 am »

Knowledge is an under-rated element of our society. As a librarian-to-be, I would be more than happy to add my name to the member's list of this society.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 04:23:41 am »

I suppose I ought to join, as I coined the word in the original discussion. Although I have found prior uses since, I was unaware of these at the time.

However, both of the references I found used Gnostocrat in a disturbing sense. I never meant hoarders of knowledge, guarding it for a sense of power. Knowledge locked away where no one can see it does not grow, or thrive, or lead to new and interesting discoveries. To do that, knowledge must go abroad in the world, meet other knowledge, and be used.

Also, I would certainly argue for the inclusion of all knowledge, not just highbrow knowledge. As John William Gardner said,"The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because philosophy is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water." Things have turned a bit since then, and we are in more danger from those who would scorn excellent philosophy as effete, and tolerate shoddy plumbing as practical, but the results are the same.

Finally, it is mean and ignoble to jeer at the honestly ignorant. After all, I don't know many more things than I do myself. I would certainly hope that the questions of those who want to learn will be treated with kindness and respect. Honest ignorance is an opportunity to raise another to your own level.

However, none of the above applies to willful ignorance, which must be dealt with firmly, up to and including artillery fire, if necessary.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2009, 05:08:47 am »

I should like to join as well.  Thank you, Mr Voltaic.
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Lucius Voltaic
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2009, 06:02:02 am »

However, both of the references I found used Gnostocrat in a disturbing sense.

Yes, I saw those, but I think two lonely references is little enough that the meaning can hardly be well-established yet, no?

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Also, I would certainly argue for the inclusion of all knowledge, not just highbrow knowledge. As John William Gardner said,"The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because philosophy is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water."

I absolutely agree that there is much knowledge which is worthwhile though not highbrow. There is plenty of knowledge which is neither, though.

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Finally, it is mean and ignoble to jeer at the honestly ignorant. After all, I don't know many more things than I do myself. I would certainly hope that the questions of those who want to learn will be treated with kindness and respect. Honest ignorance is an opportunity to raise another to your own level.

Definitely.

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However, none of the above applies to willful ignorance, which must be dealt with firmly, up to and including artillery fire, if necessary.

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2009, 11:09:02 pm »

However, none of the above applies to willful ignorance, which must be dealt with firmly, up to and including artillery fire, if necessary.
If for that line, and that line only, I'd like to be counted amongst your numbers.
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2009, 07:19:41 am »

The Right Reverend Thaddeus Antrim Hammer adds his battered bowler to the ring!
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Lucius Voltaic
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2009, 03:35:38 am »

The Fearless Leader will now speak from his (admittedly limited Wink) wisdom:

Just as moderation is imperative in other aspects of life, it is so in credulity. He (or she) who is truly wise will not dismiss that which he does not understand. However, moderation provides a counter to that: neither must he believe in that which has not been shown. I, for example, do not believe in ghosts, but neither do I deny their existence.

He will now share a piece of interesting knowledge:

“Caedmon’s Hymn” is the earliest recorded example of literature written in the English language. The poem is an interpretation of part of Genesis, clearly placing the poem after the conversion of the Saxons to Christianity in 597. However, I emphasize that this is brought up in a purely historical and linguistic interest, with religious discussion to be strictly avoided. The text and interlinear translation (correct it if you know better; my Old English leaves much to be desired) follow:

Nu    we  sculon  herigean     heofonrices      weard,
Now  we  should  praise        heaven-realm's  Warder,

     meotodes   meahte     ond his modgeþanc,
the Measurer's might        and his mind-thinking

     weorc          wuldorfæder,     swa he wundra gehwæs,
the work  of the  Glory-Father,     as   he wonders each,

ece      drihten,     or                 onstealde.
eternal  Lord,       established a beginning.

He ærest sceop       eorðan bearnum
He first   shaped for earth's bairns

heofon  to hrofe,       halig scyppend;
Heaven to roof,   the holy Shaper;

þa  middangeard     moncynnes weard,
the Middle-Earth,   mankind's    Warder,

     ece     drihten,     æfter teode
the eternal Lord,        after  made

firum foldan,           frea ælmihtig.
earth for men,   the Lord Almighty.



I invite any of you who has a piece of wisdom or of interesting knowledge to share it!
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2009, 08:21:09 am »

Moderation in all things......including moderation.
There are times where immoderateness must reign.
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Lucius Voltaic
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 05:58:11 am »

Another tidbit of my impeccable wisdom! Grin

Mozzarella is great on sandwiches when it's fresh and squishy, and on pasta when it's aged and crisp, but it's not so great when it gets old and kinda, like, flabby, you know?

Ponder this deep in your hearts, fellow knowledge-seekers.
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