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« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2009, 01:19:03 am » |
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It depends upon what the Selkie would like to drink when you have dinner together.
Is it suggested that the Selkie is the dinner? Barbaric and innaccurate, it is white wine with fishmen, Selkies are mammals, a form of were seal. You may as well suggest serving werewolf with white wine, you are breaking two social mores cannibalism and serving red meat with white wine.
I have to temper this in that the wine depends on how the seafood is spiced and prepared. For example, Cajun "blackened" fishmen would certainly stand up to something more robust than a white wine. But I agree, Selkies with their relationship to seals and the underlying blubber would demand something that could cut through the fat content of the flesh. |
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« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2009, 01:30:27 am » |
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Just think of the crackling you could get off of one of them though! Apply a generous amount of salt to the skin and voila! delicious crispy goodness.
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« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2009, 01:41:01 am » |
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Just think of the crackling you could get off of one of them though! Apply a generous amount of salt to the skin and voila! delicious crispy goodness.
It depends upon what the Selkie would like to drink when you have dinner together.
Is it suggested that the Selkie is the dinner? Barbaric and innaccurate, it is white wine with fishmen, Selkies are mammals, a form of were seal. You may as well suggest serving werewolf with white wine, you are breaking two social mores cannibalism and serving red meat with white wine.
I have to temper this in that the wine depends on how the seafood is spiced and prepared. For example, Cajun "blackened" fishmen would certainly stand up to something more robust than a white wine. But I agree, Selkies with their relationship to seals and the underlying blubber would demand something that could cut through the fat content of the flesh. Knock it off, guys, seriously. Selkie standing right here- and not intent on joining the Donner party.  |
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« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2009, 01:48:50 am » |
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Is that where Donner Kebabs originated?
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« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2009, 04:25:47 am » |
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(The Maitre' de: "Donner, party of twelve....errr....ten....ummm....eight......
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« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2009, 11:13:50 pm » |
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Just think of the crackling you could get off of one of them though! Apply a generous amount of salt to the skin and voila! delicious crispy goodness.
It depends upon what the Selkie would like to drink when you have dinner together.
Is it suggested that the Selkie is the dinner? Barbaric and innaccurate, it is white wine with fishmen, Selkies are mammals, a form of were seal. You may as well suggest serving werewolf with white wine, you are breaking two social mores cannibalism and serving red meat with white wine.
I have to temper this in that the wine depends on how the seafood is spiced and prepared. For example, Cajun "blackened" fishmen would certainly stand up to something more robust than a white wine. But I agree, Selkies with their relationship to seals and the underlying blubber would demand something that could cut through the fat content of the flesh. Knock it off, guys, seriously. Selkie standing right here- and not intent on joining the Donner party. I do believe it's the gin that's gotten to them. Shameful, really. |
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« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2009, 12:05:28 am » |
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« Reply #57 on: November 24, 2009, 12:08:56 am » |
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« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2009, 03:50:17 pm » |
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I see no reason why the creatures of myth and legend couldn't make an appearance in the Steampunk world, the odd Werewolf that for most of the month is a high society gentleman, who perhaps leads his fellows on the hunt for the suave ladies man that attends his club but only comes out at night due to being a vampire. A young lady who is the toast of the theatre due to her voice who happens to sleep in the bath as she is a Siren and her attendant who is a Modern Prometheus.
(I will admit I am going with a later folklore version of Sirens that have been intertwined with mermaids rather than the early Greek winged seductresses, but that could work too).
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« Reply #59 on: November 24, 2009, 03:53:44 pm » |
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I see no reason why the creatures of myth and legend couldn't make an appearance in the Steampunk world, the odd Werewolf that for most of the month is a high society gentleman...
Or even Dr. Jekyll.... |
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« Reply #60 on: November 25, 2009, 02:04:23 am » |
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Though it would be difficult to have a plausible scientific explanation for a creature such as a selkie. You might have to invoke magic, which I personally have an aversion to doing in my stories.
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« Reply #61 on: November 25, 2009, 02:17:11 am » |
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Genetic manipulation could produce such a creature...could be made to glow in the dark, if desired... |
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« Reply #62 on: November 25, 2009, 03:16:54 am » |
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Splendid... I might be a nice neon blue. The thought of genetically engineered selkies has crossed my mind, though, but I do like their more mythical background. |
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« Reply #63 on: November 25, 2009, 03:39:31 am » |
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Splendid... I might be a nice neon blue. The thought of genetically engineered selkies has crossed my mind, though, but I do like their more mythical background. so maybe someone like the High Evolutionary and Mr. Sinister from Marvel Comics started doing genetic experiments a few hundred years ago? |
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« Reply #64 on: November 25, 2009, 03:49:01 am » |
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A selkie is someone who looks like a human but turns into a seal when they put on their sealskin. And back again when taking it off. It doesn´t sound like something easily accomplished with genetical engineering.
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« Reply #65 on: November 25, 2009, 03:55:13 am » |
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Wessex games certainly could imagine fantasy races in history: http://www.blease.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/WG.darkelands.htmlAlthough there is much more tendency to Weird War 2 in the area concerned, why not Weird Zulu/Crimean/Boer wars? The more commonly thought of fantasy races (elves, dwarves, orcs ) aren't too far removed from real organisms, so like I have suggested regarding Nuclear Renaissance, why not something that simply allows you to slot non humans into the setting? They wouldn't have magical abilities etc. but the build of an orc or elf would give them more believable physical attributes. Besides we do go on about the Air-kraken so much around here... |
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« Reply #66 on: November 25, 2009, 04:44:23 am » |
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A selkie is someone who looks like a human but turns into a seal when they put on their sealskin. And back again when taking it off. It doesn´t sound like something easily accomplished with genetical engineering.
This is why I tend to lean more toward magical origins for them than a scientific background where it's all laid out straight. It holds more mystery and gives the oh-so inquisitive humans something extra to explore. Plus, it allows them to still be attractive and compatible with humans, as far as breeding's concerned. Wessex games certainly could imagine fantasy races in history: http://www.blease.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/WG.darkelands.htmlAlthough there is much more tendency to Weird War 2 in the area concerned, why not Weird Zulu/Crimean/Boer wars? The more commonly thought of fantasy races (elves, dwarves, orcs ) aren't too far removed from real organisms, so like I have suggested regarding Nuclear Renaissance, why not something that simply allows you to slot non humans into the setting? They wouldn't have magical abilities etc. but the build of an orc or elf would give them more believable physical attributes. Besides we do go on about the Air-kraken so much around here... That's pretty neat. I just now thought even selkies might be some sort of result of evolution, in regards to the aquatic ape theory and some form of cocoon like adaptations. Heh, Darwin would be shocked by even that, methinks. |
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« Reply #67 on: November 25, 2009, 10:23:01 pm » |
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Would you do the fantasay/mythical creatures evolving alongside the humans so everyone is up on everyone? OR suddenly, some events happens and the magical/mystical creatures are revealed and must now learn to live with one another.
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« Reply #68 on: November 25, 2009, 11:41:47 pm » |
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Hm, I'm not really sure yet. Both options have their potential, both with their own pros and cons. For example, if everyone knew of unicorns and their horns really could help cure ailments or possibly even be used for their meat, what would happen to them? Would they be hunted to extinction or could some people stand up and take up the role of conservation?
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« Reply #69 on: November 26, 2009, 02:47:31 am » |
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Hm, I'm not really sure yet. Both options have their potential, both with their own pros and cons. For example, if everyone knew of unicorns and their horns really could help cure ailments or possibly even be used for their meat, what would happen to them? Would they be hunted to extinction or could some people stand up and take up the role of conservation?
It's been my experience that unicorns are more than capable of taking care of themselves, having a variety of offensive and defensive abilities at their disposal. If you make friends with one, and ask very nicely, it might just shed its horn for you, since growing a new one takes mere hours. As for other fantasy creatures applied to steampunk, the tabletop RPG DragonMechdoes a really nice job, and includes the standard fantasy races too. |
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« Reply #70 on: November 26, 2009, 03:16:00 am » |
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It's been my experience that unicorns are more than capable of taking care of themselves, having a variety of offensive and defensive abilities at their disposal. If you make friends with one, and ask very nicely, it might just shed its horn for you, since growing a new one takes mere hours.
Huh, I sort of always equated the unicorn to something like a rhino or an elephant to where you had to kill them to get their horn/tusks, due to the way they were mentioned being hunted in legends. But you're right. With any fantasy race, you can give them whatever ability that you want. Don't want to go off topic too much, but I love the quote in your signature. Great movie.  |
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« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2009, 04:20:49 am » |
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Oh yes, you first lure the unicorn near with a young virgin and then WHAM!.
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« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2009, 05:03:37 am » |
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i will make this short, aliens maybe, criptozooology yes, mythology no...
that said, if some nut somewhere thinks its still real today, then go for it, but unicorns powered airships.... thats just silly...
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« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2009, 05:30:51 am » |
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I rather like an idea on the order of Miss Lindskold's "Athanor" novels - old races, who may or may not be "differently-abled", for whatever reason of genetics, simply have found it wise to hide their existence from the largely bigoted-and-bumbling Humans. Some attempt to blend in, some hide in the hinterlands.
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« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2009, 05:35:50 am » |
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Oh yes, you first lure the unicorn near with a young virgin and then WHAM!.
The Last Unicorn by Peter S. Beagle was always a powerful tale for me about unicorns and what they can do to survive depredations and unjust treatment. The movie haunted me and made realize not to turn a nose up and be passe about mythical horned animals. Unicorns can be powerful given the right moment. |
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