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« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2009, 12:56:15 AM »

I've seen fantasy creatures in far-future settings, as well as their typical fantasy settings, so why not Steampunk? In fact it could probably be seen as fantasy with more technological advancements thrown in. So why not fantasy creatures? I mean there are all sorts of way to incorporate them, alternate dimensions, mad scientists' experiments, the results of a Time Paradox and whottknott. So of course, plenty of scope
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« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2009, 02:24:09 AM »

Seeing as steampunk exploration is based off of real-life exploration in the Victorian/Edwardian era, it can be safe to say that mythical creatures should definitely be included. No, I'm not insinuating that these creatures actually exist (even though I believe so), but there were certainly documents of sea serpents, krakens, and other various, fantastical beasts that early explorers thought they came up. Of course we all know now that it was probably all that opium going to their heads, but as steampunk is science fiction and fantasy in itself, I see no reason why mythical beings and beasts shouldn't be included.

The Dragonology series, I might add, is very steampunk in manner and design. Grin
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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2009, 02:29:28 AM »

The location of 'Stately Harlock Manor' shall have to move closer to the coast, for convenience sake  Smiley

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« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2009, 02:29:37 AM »

Its red wine with Selkie, not gin.

Pish-tosh, Mr. Harrow! Surely gin goes with everything!

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Pshaw!

White wine with seafood, gentlemen.  Not a sweet one, if you please.
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« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2009, 02:34:43 AM »

The location of 'Stately Harlock Manor' shall have to move closer to the coast, for convenience sake  Smiley

"I say, Miss S., It appears that there was some undocumented underwater enemy  activity here  a century ago. Might you have a look? Here, bring along this Galvanic Disruptor.. it might come in handy.. Do be careful..."

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I just imagined a clockwork sea serpent. Shocked My mind has imploded with the awesomeness.
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« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2009, 02:57:37 AM »

SHHHHHH... the Clockwork Sea Serpent Affair is still covered by the Official Secrets Act...

It cost Grand-Dad Harlock two toes on his left foot and his ability to taste Wensleydale Blue, but we avoided the Zombie Apocalypse, didn't we ?      Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2009, 03:12:20 AM »

SHHHHHH... the Clockwork Sea Serpent Affair is still covered by the Official Secrets Act...

It cost Grand-Dad Harlock two toes on his left foot and his ability to taste Wensleydale Blue, but we avoided the Zombie Apocalypse, didn't we ?      Smiley
Your Grandaddy couldn't be the one responsible for those enormous clockwork arachnids that have a suspicious habit of exclusively infesting pirate airships, now could he?
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« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2009, 03:37:05 AM »

The location of 'Stately Harlock Manor' shall have to move closer to the coast, for convenience sake  Smiley

"I say, Miss S., It appears that there was some undocumented underwater enemy  activity here  a century ago. Might you have a look? Here, bring along this Galvanic Disruptor.. it might come in handy.. Do be careful..."

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« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2009, 03:42:37 AM »

Its red wine with Selkie, not gin.

Pish-tosh, Mr. Harrow! Surely gin goes with everything!

~T

Pshaw!

White wine with seafood, gentlemen.  Not a sweet one, if you please.

Huh!

Francophile!

 Gin....good British gin...good with everything, By God!!
I survive on gin and sardines...ask my nephew.

~Thistlewaite

ps. My dear Selkie, I should not dream of eating thee....but I do enjoy kippers and sardines...and gin....
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« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2009, 03:43:15 AM »

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Your Grandaddy couldn't be the one responsible for those enormous clockwork arachnids that have a suspicious habit of exclusively infesting pirate airships, now could he?

We all try to avoid speaking about the old Gent's numerous tactical errors... It is a particular sore point with the whole Rackham-Bonney branch of the family  Sad  

The Odonate Fae do SO love hunting the clicking b*ggers  with their glass lances and swords..  you can almost forgive the error ....
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« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2009, 03:47:02 AM »

We all try to avoid speaking about the old Gent's numerous tactical errors... It is a particular sore point with the whole Rackham-Bonney branch of the family  Sad  

The Odonate Fae do SO love hunting the clicking b*ggers  with their glass lances and swords..  you can almost forgive the error ....
Mm, they're rather brittle, aren't they? Not the most well-designed creatures... no offense in regards to your Grandfather, of course.
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« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2009, 04:11:29 AM »

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no offense in regards to your Grandfather, of course.

None taken, Miss Puck.. even the best of families have the occasional  throwback. with bad genes .. oops.... I mean Purchase Officer... can't be helped, what?  ...

Miss Puck and Miss Selkie, I see an interesting bit of collaborative steampunk fantasy fiction developing here. Shall we?
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« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2009, 04:52:28 AM »

one of personas of a friend of mine is a fantasy creasture, and it works well in the hunter group that she uses that persona for.

What sort of fantasy creature is your friend's persona? What's her role in the hunter group?



to be honest, I'm not sure as she and me other friends that are part of that group are from texas and I just found out about that persona at this year's dragoncon and didn't have a chance to pursue more knowledge of it as I was vending like usual.
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« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2009, 05:37:47 AM »

one of personas of a friend of mine is a fantasy creasture, and it works well in the hunter group that she uses that persona for.

What sort of fantasy creature is your friend's persona? What's her role in the hunter group?



to be honest, I'm not sure as she and me other friends that are part of that group are from texas and I just found out about that persona at this year's dragoncon and didn't have a chance to pursue more knowledge of it as I was vending like usual.

That's fine, maybe you can ask her some other time.

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no offense in regards to your Grandfather, of course.

None taken, Miss Puck.. even the best of families have the occasional  throwback. with bad genes .. oops.... I mean Purchase Officer... can't be helped, what?  ...

Miss Puck and Miss Selkie, I see an interesting bit of collaborative steampunk fantasy fiction developing here. Shall we?

Sounds intriguing to me. I'm all for it and it'll remove the rustiness of my writing muscles. How shall we set it up?

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« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2009, 03:11:11 PM »

None taken, Miss Puck.. even the best of families have the occasional  throwback. with bad genes .. oops.... I mean Purchase Officer... can't be helped, what?  ...

Miss Puck and Miss Selkie, I see an interesting bit of collaborative steampunk fantasy fiction developing here. Shall we?
I'd love to, although I am working on one of my own at the moment. Granted, it's all in my head because I plan for it to be a comic, but I'm not the best artist in the world... Undecided
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« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2009, 03:19:29 PM »

Even Arthur Conan Doyle was taken in by the fairie photos hoax, so surely they have a potential place in a Victorian world
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« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2009, 03:26:59 PM »

Even Arthur Conan Doyle was taken in by the fairie photos hoax, so surely they have a potential place in a Victorian world
I assure you, good sir, fairies are realer than you think. Wink
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« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2009, 03:33:15 PM »

Even Arthur Conan Doyle was taken in by the fairie photos hoax, so surely they have a potential place in a Victorian world
I assure you, good sir, fairies are realer than you think. Wink

I dreamt of a hunter of insects
with his bottles, nets and pins
and shuddered to think of a man
who would do a butterfly in

If little boys tear wings from flies
I suppose that there's an excuse
But I can't believe the faerie-folk
from adults, would bear such abuse

For tho they be immortal
lacking man-ish wants or cares
Honour must be upheld
'gainst mortal science and her snares

So pity that bug hunter
in his folly and his pain
for his most precious quarry
shall prove his greatest bane.
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« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2009, 06:41:16 PM »

I don´t see why you can´t have some rather fantastical creatures in a steampunk setting. You can decide wether they should be magical or naturalistic in origin. You should remember that victorian society might function differently, depending on what creatures exist. For example bringing in zombies might change a lot, regarding religion and such.
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« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2009, 07:08:37 PM »

For example bringing in zombies might change a lot, regarding religion and such.


Could certainly bring a different definition of the old term "resurrectionist"
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« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2009, 07:23:20 PM »

Its red wine with Selkie, not gin.

Pish-tosh, Mr. Harrow! Surely gin goes with everything!

~T



White wine with seafood, gentlemen.  Not a sweet one, if you please.


It depends upon what the Selkie would like to drink when you have dinner together.

Is it suggested that the Selkie is the dinner? Barbaric and innaccurate, it is white wine with fishmen, Selkies are mammals, a form of were seal. You may as well suggest serving werewolf with white wine, you are breaking two social mores cannibalism and serving red meat with white wine.
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« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2009, 07:47:04 PM »

For a western bent to fantasy characters in a steampunk setting there's always Deadlands to offer multiple ideas.  Nothing says terrifying and fantastical like a carnivorous Jackalope.
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« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2009, 09:07:28 PM »

Steampunk demon?  Just the thing old boy.

http://www.rubbergorilla.co.uk/steampunk%20mask%20page.htm
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« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2009, 10:23:04 PM »

Its red wine with Selkie, not gin.

Pish-tosh, Mr. Harrow! Surely gin goes with everything!

~T



White wine with seafood, gentlemen.  Not a sweet one, if you please.


It depends upon what the Selkie would like to drink when you have dinner together.

Is it suggested that the Selkie is the dinner? Barbaric and innaccurate, it is white wine with fishmen, Selkies are mammals, a form of were seal. You may as well suggest serving werewolf with white wine, you are breaking two social mores cannibalism and serving red meat with white wine.

Turnabout, my good fellow, turnabout.  I know that most werewolves would have few qualms about consuming me, although I don't think the wine choice would matter to them.
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« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2009, 11:05:26 PM »

Its red wine with Selkie, not gin.

Pish-tosh, Mr. Harrow! Surely gin goes with everything!

~T



White wine with seafood, gentlemen.  Not a sweet one, if you please.


It depends upon what the Selkie would like to drink when you have dinner together.

Is it suggested that the Selkie is the dinner? Barbaric and innaccurate, it is white wine with fishmen, Selkies are mammals, a form of were seal. You may as well suggest serving werewolf with white wine, you are breaking two social mores cannibalism and serving red meat with white wine.

Turnabout, my good fellow, turnabout.  I know that most werewolves would have few qualms about consuming me, although I don't think the wine choice would matter to them.


Thankfully, selkies don't eat humans. We're more of  a "leave us alone and we'll leave you alone" sort.
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