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Author Topic: Are we leaving ourselves open to accusations of Elitism?  (Read 7380 times)
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« Reply #175 on: June 28, 2009, 11:45:19 pm »


OTOH, if you wish to use darlin' I'll accept that as I am a card carrying member of a group referred to as G.R.I.T.S. (Girls Raised In The South), and very rare is the Southern female who doesn't respond to or use darlin' as a form of address.
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« Reply #176 on: June 28, 2009, 11:54:26 pm »

time, something tells me that we dont agree and we wont, im not willing to agree with you but i am willing to leave it at that and you wont find me in this thread again...

do svidaniya chappy
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« Reply #177 on: June 28, 2009, 11:59:57 pm »

Thank you ladies. I find myself blushing at being defended by the much fairer sex. Embarrassed

Not defended in this circumstance good sir, more being supported with complete agreement.

Oh, sweet, sweet irony!

Don't you just adore it?   Grin
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« Reply #178 on: June 29, 2009, 12:06:34 am »

Do svidaniya tovarish Dan.

Ochen horosho govorit s tebya. Spasibo.

Ya budu govorit s tebya eshyo horoshiye zemlya. (Ya isuchal russki yasik kogda ya bil angliski soldat)

(And I apologise for my horrific attempt at using the roman alphabet rather than syrrilic (kept getting my "y"s and "u"s mixed up) but you will understand the sentiment.)

Thank you acadian angle, I was trying (clumsily) to be gallant!  I will doff my hat instead.  Cheesy
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« Reply #179 on: June 29, 2009, 12:42:37 pm »

True that Time Tinker, some of it always has to do with where and how you were raised.

I'm actually better with someone calling me "honey" in a face to face conversation,

Oddly I find the reverse - "hunny" "love" etc does not seem half as presumptious coming from a stranger via the impersonal informal medium of the internet as it would in a conversation. Of course one should make allowances for regional practice (my cornish friend tells me that "moi old lover" is acceptable from all and to all down there) but generally as a bench mark I would say that if you would be offended by the person you are addressing with undue familiarity reciprocating then you are being patronising.
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« Reply #180 on: June 29, 2009, 12:45:10 pm »

  How a sentence is punctuated changes the meaning entirely since it moves the emphasis around the sentence in a way that intonation does for speech. 

Classic example:

"Let's eat Johnny!"
"Let's eat, Johnny!"

Punctuation saves lives.  Smiley



One I like even better:

A woman without her man is nothing


A woman: without her, man is nothing. What did you think I meant?! Xp
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« Reply #181 on: June 29, 2009, 01:01:08 pm »

Here in the coalfields of Yorkshire, Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire we have the interchangeable terms of "love" and "duck" sprinkled into conversation.  Interestingly there is a sort of code to it - married men and women (or of that age) use them to everyone (male, female, younger, older)  Young women use the terms to older men and women. Young men sometimes use them to older women.

Can't really see it as patronising but it is an interesting colloquilism.

Don't forget the use the term "flower". It seems to fill a similar role to love.
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« Reply #182 on: June 29, 2009, 01:13:45 pm »

One you hardly ever hear any more is  "Yoth" used between adult men.

I'd forgotten flower.  That seens to be waning too.
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« Reply #183 on: June 29, 2009, 01:16:23 pm »

You wanna start a fight with me? Call me flower or petal.



(My real name is shortened to Rose)
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« Reply #184 on: June 29, 2009, 01:24:45 pm »

You wanna start a fight with me? Call me flower or petal.




Especially in a bar  Wink

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« Reply #185 on: June 29, 2009, 01:32:26 pm »

Ha, luckily I am usually BEHIND the bar, I'm a teetotaller......
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« Reply #186 on: June 29, 2009, 02:39:09 pm »

"darlin'," is my favorite "pet name" for sweet and capable friends of the fairer sex.

It must be a Southern thing, because I've never gotten a negative reaction from its usage, even with some pretty stern feminists.

Dan, you're taking this crap way too seriously.  And so are the rest of y'all, lettin' him get you all riled up like that.  He'll calm down.
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« Reply #187 on: June 29, 2009, 02:40:55 pm »

  How a sentence is punctuated changes the meaning entirely since it moves the emphasis around the sentence in a way that intonation does for speech. 

Classic example:

"Let's eat Johnny!"
"Let's eat, Johnny!"

Punctuation saves lives.  Smiley



One I like even better:

A woman without her man is nothing


A woman: without her, man is nothing. What did you think I meant?! Xp


Unfortunately, very few people seem to really understand this.
One of the the reasons I lve this place so much. You're all so eloquent and well-typed. ^_^
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« Reply #188 on: June 29, 2009, 02:44:25 pm »

Knew a girl called Rose once (wistful sigh...)

Her lips were like petals.

Bicycle petals! Grin
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« Reply #189 on: June 29, 2009, 03:40:26 pm »

Haha! If I had a pound for every time someone quoted "a rose by any other name..." at me. When people say it now I reply "Oh, a big Shakespeare fan huh?", nine times out of ten they go "huh?", not having a clue where the quote is from. Idiots.
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« Reply #190 on: June 29, 2009, 04:13:15 pm »

Show me a rose
And I'll call you a girl named Sam
Show me a rose or leave me alone ...
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« Reply #191 on: June 29, 2009, 04:29:55 pm »

Show me a rose
And I'll call you a girl named Sam
Show me a rose or leave me alone ...

Show me a rose and I'll show you a stag at bay....
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« Reply #192 on: June 29, 2009, 04:41:39 pm »

Of course they should paraphrase and reply with galant panache.

"I shall doff my name for that has no part of me
and give all I am to thee"

The trouble is that is one of the most misquoted and misunderstood pieces Shakespeare ever wrote.  I think Romeo's admiration "but soft what light through yonder window breaks" is much the better part of the scene.

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« Reply #193 on: June 29, 2009, 06:07:28 pm »

PSA: This thread is now shamelessly off-topic. These threads essentially all end the same way, which isn't really a bad thing.

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« Reply #194 on: June 29, 2009, 08:20:06 pm »

You wanna start a fight with me? Call me flower or petal.



(My real name is shortened to Rose)

How about "ratbag" then? Definitely in use in some areas of the North of England. Probably a more masculine alternative to "love","pet","flower" et al.
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« Reply #195 on: June 29, 2009, 09:09:32 pm »

I hear that quite regularly, meant as a sort of back-handed compliment

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« Reply #196 on: June 29, 2009, 09:49:56 pm »

Call me what ever you like, you get points for creativity.
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« Reply #197 on: June 29, 2009, 09:57:00 pm »

I hear that quite regularly, meant as a sort of back-handed compliment



It's common in Australia in the same way, as is bastard.
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« Reply #198 on: June 30, 2009, 04:02:51 am »

PSA: This thread is now shamelessly off-topic. These threads essentially all end the same way, which isn't really a bad thing.

The Brass Goggles equivalent of Godwin's Law: The thread is officially dead when discussion turns to etymology.
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« Reply #199 on: June 30, 2009, 04:29:21 pm »

Bless their hearts!
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