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RJBowman
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« Reply #850 on: October 17, 2014, 03:14:35 am »


Does anyone know of a photo of a Maus 2mm pinfire with a familiar object for size reference?
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« Reply #851 on: October 17, 2014, 02:54:21 pm »

For me it has to be the duckfoot pistol

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fyargb.blogspot.com%2F2012%2F05%2Fmore-merrier.html&ei=8x1BVIriFZLooATn6IDABw&bvm=bv.77648437,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNF2R2isBp_FRycB9Wm-jwsGNcJOMA&ust=1413640048947833

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« Reply #852 on: October 17, 2014, 03:19:41 pm »


Does anyone know of a photo of a Maus 2mm pinfire with a familiar object for size reference?


Assuming a razor blade is standard across the globe, here's one I got hanging on Molly the Dolly.

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« Reply #853 on: October 18, 2014, 03:42:11 am »

Yes I think he's wrong in stating it's the smallest, unless he means it's the smallest automatic maybe I'm not sure. As folks are still evidently working on miniatures today, that may well not be true either I really don't know.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-526655/Introducing-worlds-smallest-gun-fires-deadly-300mph-bullets--just-TWO-inches-long.html
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« Reply #854 on: October 18, 2014, 08:01:59 am »

I believe the difference is that the Kolibri actually fires a projectile, whilst the various tiny 2mm pinfires merely shoot blanks.
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« Reply #855 on: October 19, 2014, 01:06:09 am »

If you watch the video, he specifically states that the pistol is the world's smallest center-fire gun. The others may be pin-fire or rim-fire and still be smaller.
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« Reply #856 on: October 19, 2014, 02:34:48 am »

I believe the difference is that the Kolibri actually fires a projectile, whilst the various tiny 2mm pinfires merely shoot blanks.
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The new ones might only fire blanks, but the old vintage maus fires a BB sized porojectile, which will  penetrate flesh. A historic Dick Tracy comic strip storyline featured a character bleeding out and dieing from a 2mm pinfire shot into the ear cannal.
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« Reply #857 on: October 22, 2014, 05:29:09 am »

I believe the difference is that the Kolibri actually fires a projectile, whilst the various tiny 2mm pinfires merely shoot blanks.
yhs
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The new ones might only fire blanks, but the old vintage maus fires a BB sized porojectile, which will  penetrate flesh. A historic Dick Tracy comic strip storyline featured a character bleeding out and dieing from a 2mm pinfire shot into the ear cannal.


Ah, the good old days, when one could put one's ear or eye out!

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« Reply #858 on: October 29, 2014, 06:22:06 pm »

I have actually fired one of these tiny pistols; the real one that fires projectiles. Sounds like a cap gun; probably has the penetrating power of a BB.
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« Reply #859 on: October 30, 2014, 12:10:58 am »

I've seen one that would fire needles including some types of phonograph needles.  Those could cause severs injury or blindness...
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« Reply #860 on: December 13, 2014, 04:07:17 pm »

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/18th-century-54-cal-blunderbuss-kit?a=918441



A possible Christmas gift idea. 
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« Reply #861 on: December 18, 2014, 04:47:47 am »



Hate to be a party pooper but that ISN'T an 18th Century blunderbus.  The percussion ignition system wasn't invented until the 19th Century.  Of course, it could represent an earlier arm "modernized" in the 19th Century.  Don't know how early the "hooked" breech (hook on the back of the barrel & a separate tang) was used.  In the 18th Century it would have been a flintlock.
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« Reply #862 on: December 20, 2014, 04:42:35 pm »



Hate to be a party popper but that ISN'T an 18th Century blunderbuss.  The percussion ignition system wasn't invented until the 19th Century.  Of course, it could represent an earlier arm "modernized" in the 19th Century.  Don't know how early the "hooked" breech (hook on the back of the barrel & a separate tang) was used.  In the 18th Century it would have been a flintlock.


Some people are confused by that 19th century and eighteen hundreds thing.  Still it appears to be the cheapest working blunderbuss on the market by about half.  http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/Blunderbusses.SHTML
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« Reply #863 on: December 22, 2014, 07:36:19 pm »

So I'm stumped on which of these I want to get and restore (all of them might be considered fairly steamy). I want both, but can only afford one or the other.

http://www.ima-usa.com/original-british-brunswick-p-1841-type-early-model-officer-s-musket-with-sword-bayonet-untouched-condition.html

http://www.ima-usa.com/original-nepalese-martini-antique-rifle-system-set-francotte-ganhendra-untouched-condtion.html

Thoughts?
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« Reply #864 on: December 22, 2014, 08:10:16 pm »

The choice is yours and far be it for me to tell you what to do "koff" martini "KOFF KOFF KOFF" MARTINI  Wink
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« Reply #865 on: December 23, 2014, 08:52:38 am »

Let us consider value for expenditure....
you must remember that these guys have been sorting and selling this Nepalese stash-o'-trash for over ten years.
Initially, for less than that , you got a reasonably nice rifle or musket
now, they are down to the bottom of the barrel, dregs-o'-the-dregs.

Now, for four-and-a-half bills you will be getting a "Khyber Pass" village-built copy, in literally relic condition.

I (and most of mi compadres) do not consider the Khyber Pass pieces to be anything but wall-hangers to start with.

A few fellows I know personally bought some of these "as-found" a couple years ago when there were better offerings, and the report was that you better buy 3 or 4 *and* new wood in order to create one...

Not to rain on your parade, but IMHO you are a bit too late at the trough to find anything good left. In all fairness I believe you would do a lot better  looking around for an original  Martini or a Remington Rolling Block for very little more...

I personally obtained an original Belgian Double 12ga ca 1885, for only $350 shipped, and it came ready to shoot! It locks up tight with a copy of the Greener Crossbolt and The 32"  damascus barrels are "to die for" ...

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« Reply #866 on: December 23, 2014, 07:49:50 pm »

Let us consider value for expenditure....
you must remember that these guys have been sorting and selling this Nepalese stash-o'-trash for over ten years.
Initially, for less than that , you got a reasonably nice rifle or musket
now, they are down to the bottom of the barrel, dregs-o'-the-dregs.

Now, for four-and-a-half bills you will be getting a "Khyber Pass" village-built copy, in literally relic condition.

I (and most of mi compadres) do not consider the Khyber Pass pieces to be anything but wall-hangers to start with.

A few fellows I know personally bought some of these "as-found" a couple years ago when there were better offerings, and the report was that you better buy 3 or 4 *and* new wood in order to create one...

Not to rain on your parade, but IMHO you are a bit too late at the trough to find anything good left. In all fairness I believe you would do a lot better  looking around for an original  Martini or a Remington Rolling Block for very little more...

I personally obtained an original Belgian Double 12ga ca 1885, for only $350 shipped, and it came ready to shoot! It locks up tight with a copy of the Greener Crossbolt and The 32"  damascus barrels are "to die for" ...

yhs
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Took the words right out of my mouth.  I was in on this when it FIRST started (at least when the company I go through started offering), and I think they were going for $150 then.  Not worth the money, at all.  They're caked in mud, rotting wood, the barrels are in such condition that no competent gunsmith would sign off on them.  So glad it was my mate wasting his money and not me.  I spent the same amount and got me a nice copy of a Winchester 1892.
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« Reply #867 on: December 23, 2014, 10:16:06 pm »

Honestly, from all reports (and from the Gahendra parts gun that I already had, but sold to finance a move) I've heard lately, a lot of the stuff is still in pretty great shape. The Brunswicks need a bit more work than the Gahendras and Martinis, but I haven't seen much that's bad come out of it yet. They are still unpacking things from Nepal that haven't been listed out yet (they recently put up a Gurkha-made Magazine Lee Metford that they dug out that didn't get listed with the ones they sold before), and from recent pictures taken at the warehouses, they still have pallets of Martinis, Gahendras, and Brown Besses and the like. And none of them have been Khyber Pass copies.
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« Reply #868 on: January 10, 2015, 12:37:38 pm »

The three-wheel



and four-wheel model

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Northwestern_cadets_with_4_wheeled_gun_carriage_1899.png

From about 1898.  I believe that is a Colt-Browning "Potato Digger" machine gun, and I think these are some of the very earliest self-propelled gun carriages.


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« Reply #869 on: January 12, 2015, 01:01:00 am »

The three-wheel



and four-wheel model

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Northwestern_cadets_with_4_wheeled_gun_carriage_1899.png

From about 1898.  I believe that is a Colt-Browning "Potato Digger" machine gun, and I think these are some of the very earliest self-propelled gun carriages.


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« Reply #870 on: January 13, 2015, 01:33:54 am »

The three-wheel



and four-wheel model

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Northwestern_cadets_with_4_wheeled_gun_carriage_1899.png

From about 1898.  I believe that is a Colt-Browning "Potato Digger" machine gun, and I think these are some of the very earliest self-propelled gun carriages.


Cheers!

Chas.




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« Reply #871 on: March 05, 2015, 07:42:03 pm »

I don't know much about historical guns. I am just getting into steampunk as of a few months ago. What makes a gun "period appropriate" for a steampunk costume versus just another prop?
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« Reply #872 on: March 06, 2015, 03:29:07 am »

usually if you hold it up and tell everyone "this is my steampunk gun!" it is to you, everyone is welcome to their own opinion.

obviously taking an ultra modern looking gun and adding some brass isn't going to sway many people, but rather using something either retro period looking or even non descript and adding bits and pieces to embellish it, can get you somewhere.

some people like rayguns, and you can cover a lot of different looks from jules verne to aliens vs predators.

many firearms and developments in the Victorian age were overly complicated and slightly awkward or ungainly in looks. the most successful guns of the period were very simple in design and slightly graceful compared to the others. personally, I think steampunk and graceful can intersect, but rarely do.

then there is the "I've crashed on mars and need to improvise some sort of weapon to keep the local fauna away!" line of design.

have a look at all of the guns posted in this thread and the original "a collective thread for all them guns 1 and 2" to see what others have made.
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« Reply #873 on: March 06, 2015, 02:03:59 pm »

And now another tiny one:





How it works? Whatch at 1:08 here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QutNKR53n6E


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« Reply #874 on: March 12, 2015, 11:40:59 am »

you shot teddy! you bastards!

wow what a tiny little pinfire! is it costly to shoot? (other than the cost of the bear)

love the hat and the other costumes, great stuff!
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