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Author Topic: Non-steamed steampunk guns  (Read 305773 times)
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« Reply #175 on: November 10, 2009, 09:33:54 pm »

can a lever action rifle, properly modified, be used as a 'tactical' weapon, that is, if you add the right sights, store inboard ammo, lights, super lite weight stocks, etc. is it a good tactical gun...

In the mid-19th c. it was a tactical weapon without modification - the "gun you could load on Sunday and shoot all week."  It's actually faster than a bolt action, though not nearly as accurate at long range.  So I guess it all depends on the context of what kind of war you're fighting and the tactics involved.

Back in the day, I packed a Winchester 93, good old 30-30.  My dad had a lever action .308 that I was fond of, that came up suspiciously missing during the estate sale.  Makes me wonder which of the stepbrothers snagged it off the rack after the funeral.
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« Reply #176 on: November 11, 2009, 01:38:25 am »

I thought you might enjoy seeing a couple of the more "Steamy" revolvers that I have access to.  The first, which is not mine, is a Galand-Sommerville, patented in 1868.  Very early for a cartridge revolver, it's method of ejecting the empty shells is pretty amazing!  This example was purchased by a friend of mine in Afghanistan about 20 or so years ago. Pretty wild!


Here it is open:


This one below is mine.  It's an Austrian Gasser, of the Montenegrin pattern (the King of Montenegro, who had a financial interest in Gasser, decreed that all male subjects had to own one of these.) This particular one was made in Belgium (the decree merely said "Gasser pattern" not make), but not for Montenegro.  It's in .44WCF, AKA .44-40, also known as .44 Winchester. On the  top of the barrel it reads "FOR .44 WINCHESTER CARTRIDGE". Supposedly it was made for an order from Pancho Villa for his army in the Mexican Revolution of 1911, thus the American cartridge.  Who knows, but it's definitely cool!


And open:


Anyway, kinda cool stuff that I thought folks might enjoy seeing. (Sorry about the huge files!)

Cheers!

Gordon
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« Reply #177 on: November 11, 2009, 06:03:10 am »

Can't see any images there, sorry...
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« Reply #178 on: November 11, 2009, 06:35:21 am »

Nope.

If I quote your post I can see the URLs, but when I paste one into a new tab I get a web page (which is not valid content for an [ img] tag!) which says "You are not authorized to view or download this Attachment." (Capitalization theirs.)
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« Reply #179 on: November 11, 2009, 04:59:16 pm »

Okay, I'll move them to a decent host this afternoon.  Sorry about that.

Cheers,

Gordon
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« Reply #180 on: November 11, 2009, 05:30:22 pm »

Here's my favorite:

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/Bergman_mod_2.htm

Anyone know where I can buy a replica of this beauty? Wink
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« Reply #181 on: November 11, 2009, 05:52:20 pm »

Here's my favorite:

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/Bergman_mod_2.htm

Anyone know where I can buy a replica of this beauty? Wink


holy wow batman!

that gun looks like it would be at home on the bat utility belt, shooting a harpoon or something...
shes just a marvel...
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« Reply #182 on: November 11, 2009, 06:11:41 pm »

Here's my favorite:

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/Bergman_mod_2.htm

Anyone know where I can buy a replica of this beauty? Wink


That sir, is one beautiful firearm.
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« Reply #183 on: November 11, 2009, 06:49:22 pm »

I'm currently adapting this historical pistol replica as my steampunk gun:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Volcanic.JPG

I ordered a replica of the gun here:

http://www.aurorahistoryboutique.com/ahb.cfm?a=C000716

I'm adding a brass scope to the top and commissioning a steampunky holster from a friend who happens to be a talented leather worker.

I tried doing a nerf mod, but I just wasn't pleased with the results. Plus, I like the look of "real" period guns better anyway. Smiley
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« Reply #184 on: November 11, 2009, 10:58:15 pm »

Okay, trying again!

Galand-Sommerville of 1868:

Galand-Sommerville, open:

Gasser Montenegrin Pattern;

Gasser Montenegrin, open

We'll see how that works out...

Cheers!

Gordon
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« Reply #185 on: November 11, 2009, 11:06:36 pm »

Well, my latest purchase will be a replica Mare's Leg (Winchester / Randall Special) as originally commissioned and used by Steve McQueen in his TV series 'Wanted: Dead Or Alive' and more recently by Woody Harrelson in 'Zombieland'.

Funnily enough the leg holster is costing more than the gun.
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« Reply #186 on: November 12, 2009, 02:22:43 am »

I've got say as the list goes for Steam Punk Appropriate to the Forum I'd go;

Pistol (s)
Colt 1911 double action.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/b/b6/20090412052332!M1911_Pistol_US.jpg

The Imperial Nagant Revolver;
with a 7 round .30 caliber cylinder.

I don't know what this is, but it looks too crazy to miss;
http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/12/45/00/40/threex10.jpg

Luger 09'
http://www.gunart.net/LUGER6in.jpg

Rifles;
Martini Henry
http://www.empirearms.com/1879-martini-1.jpg

 .45-70 lever action; I loved firing this gun.
http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4688038/Marlin45-70_Full.jpg

  .30-30 deer rifle, bolt or lever action are great to shoot.

   The British .303 Enfields are good.

   Shot guns;
   Any 2 barreled Over Under, or Pump shot gun.

big guns!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_1_pounder_pom-pom

This Place has all kinds of tasty goodness.
http://www.cannonsuperstore.com/wwonesold.htm

  There are larger pieces too, but I digress.
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« Reply #187 on: November 12, 2009, 02:32:54 am »

What happened to the lever-action shotgun? I know there were a few models out there back in the day.. anyone still producing them?

Convesely.. just out of curiosity, are there any pump-action rifles around?? (non-smoothbore)

.22 LR is the only One I know of.
But nothing says you couldn't make one!
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« Reply #188 on: November 12, 2009, 02:53:24 am »

Webley revolver in .455 another timeless piece
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« Reply #189 on: November 12, 2009, 05:51:54 am »

United States Firearms, Rossi, and Uberti all make versions of the old Colt Lightning pump action rifle, in calibers up to and including .45 long Colt.
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« Reply #190 on: November 12, 2009, 05:56:53 am »

I would rather enjoy using one of these, "Three heavy breech-loading double-eight elephant guns, weighing about fifteen pounds each, to carry a charge of eleven drachms of black powder," as described by Allan Quatermain in the classic novel King Solomon's Mines.
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« Reply #191 on: November 13, 2009, 01:48:08 am »

Black powder elephant guns kick like a surly mule at plowing time. My great grandfathers 4bore nearly ripped my shoulder off. Though nothing compared to Gandpa's .750 Holland&Holland
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« Reply #192 on: November 13, 2009, 02:49:16 am »

Black powder elephant guns kick like a surly mule at plowing time. My great grandfathers 4bore nearly ripped my shoulder off. Though nothing compared to Gandpa's .750 Holland&Holland

Try firing both barrels of a double-barreled four bore at once.  I've seen it happen - the shooter knocked ass over tea cart and $5K worth of rifle cartwheeling through the air...
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« Reply #193 on: November 13, 2009, 03:59:31 am »

I'm Crazy not Stupid .As I said the kick is savage . Though why anyone would fire both barrels at the sane time (death wish,accident?) But give that they were desigined to knock a charging bull African Elephant  base over apex ,or a T-Rex for that matter .......
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« Reply #194 on: November 13, 2009, 10:25:42 am »

Though why anyone would fire both barrels at the sane time (death wish,accident?)

Accident. He forgot the first rule of double-guns:

"Pull the rear trigger first."

(If you pull the front trigger first, the recoil will most likely cause you to pull the rear trigger at the same time.)
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« Reply #195 on: November 24, 2009, 08:05:16 am »

i just came from the national ww1 museum in kansas city, and holy wow did i get some great gun pics... as soon as i get them uploaded i will post them
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« Reply #196 on: November 24, 2009, 06:23:13 pm »

Due to legal restrictions I will probably never own a working one, and I'm having an annoyingly hard time getting my hands on a non-firing replica, but I do have a soft spot for the LeMat:



I do find them somewhat mad science-y with that extra 16 gauge shot in the centre of the cylinder. Good for those long treks of a gentleman adventurer  Grin


I bought one at the weekend from Timetinker. He posts on here so it might be worth contacting him.

(I haven't read all of the thread yet so sorry if someone else has already suggested this)
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« Reply #197 on: November 24, 2009, 06:49:57 pm »

i just came from the national ww1 museum in kansas city, and holy wow did i get some great gun pics... as soon as i get them uploaded i will post them

*arms folded, foot tapping*
We're waiting!

That is an awesome museum, isn't it?  Here's my writeup of our visit there this summer.
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« Reply #198 on: November 25, 2009, 12:47:08 am »

I use an airsoft Randall M1892 for my Steampunk carry piece... the gun (when you can find it) runs about $350, and the holster was another $75 (including fake cartridges)... so, not cheap... but lots of fun...

That, again, is Zoe's gun from Firefly (and other places) 

Lever Action is great!

I also have (in my "real" guns) a Model '12 Remington in .22 WRF... it's a pump action, hexagon barreled beauty.  Mine is an original (it doesn't SAY Model 12 on it, later ones did because it was first manufactured in 1912)  The cartridge it is chambered in is larger than a regular .22 in length, even larger than a .22 Magnum... and this particular gun has iron sights on the barrel, and is scary accurate for hunting or plinking.  Unfortunately, it is also very expensive to shoot (and not reloadable, as it is still a rimfire)

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I really like the Mauser pistol, and have thought of it for a great build point for another carry accessory. 

Also, a non-period piece (and mods feel free to delete this part if its too far outside) is the CZ61 Skorpion machine pistol... it screams "steam ME!"  and there is an airsoft version of it available to do just that, as well.
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« Reply #199 on: November 25, 2009, 02:08:35 am »

Very nice. My Volcanic lever-action pistol didn't work out either. The replica I received turned me off the gun. Sad

But I did order the $100 Weta ray gun. Got it about a week ago. Lovely piece. I still, however, want to find a nice historical firearm replica to use as a prop. I kind of like Hellboy's gun but all the replicas are quite expensive.

I'd love to find this as a replica but I doubt anyone makes it:

http://www.goantiques.com/scripts/images,id,2066747.html

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