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Author Topic: My Theory On The Anatomy Of A Air Jellyfish....type thing  (Read 11640 times)
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« on: April 28, 2009, 04:36:25 am »

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I think or theorize or whatever that an air jellyfish looks something like a normal jellyfish only without the tentacles and it has the skirting on top of its body as well as below,making the top and bottom totally parallel to each other.It has perforated holes in the actually body part of it that lies in between the two skirtings,these holes act as a sort of mouth for it to breath,it absorbs the oxygen it needs from the air(as well as varius other gases such as hydrogen,helium and others and then it stores the gases in sacs for lift)in between each of the two skirtings there are one giant holes which the jellyfish blows excess gases out of to get a more rapid acceleration either up,down or whatever direction it happens to be facing,it also uses the holes to get food like birds and small mammals(and the occasional human)the can "fold"the skirting up against the bodies so that they are more compact(this may be the reason that people think they have seen flying saucers)they have virtually no body heat and thus avoid detection from most heat sensitive satellites,missiles,radars etc....but with specialized equipment they can be detected.


Thats all i got pretty much,lemme know if it made no sense at all(which it probably didnt)im way better at explaining things in person,if i remember anything later ill just add on to this tomorrow.

        Thanks for reading.
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2009, 04:52:35 am »

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like a normal jellyfish only without the tentacles
Why wouldn't it have tentacles?
(there is some Science Fiction story that has this also...)
But what if the rubbery/upper/ squishy part(see I'm not a Biologist) was a gasbag, that provided lift, and the tentacles were used to catch food?

Add some numbing/ poison sting and it would be interesting......

Aaaargh... air kracken. ...flying lazier armed penguins.... an' ye ain't seen the floatin' man o war yet has ye? Th' life O' an Airship Pyrate be always interestin'..........


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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2009, 05:41:34 am »

 I would imagine the critter would look more like an immense Portuguese man-o-war. With it's envelope being filled with hydrogen. It's main body would float at cloud level(serving as an incidental camouflage) totally mindless of it's own where abouts. The pores you describe are infact there feeding into the "jet sack" used for the sudden burst of speed in what ever direction it happens to be facing at the time. The tentacles (up to a mile in length and can sense heat) are of such translucence that they are nearly invisible until you are with in 20-30 feet from them. (think the predator suit from the movies) This make the monster all the more dangerous at night. Whole herds of cattle have been nearly decimated over night along with many of their cow pokes. The tentacles stun the prey with static charges generated in the very air and then slowly hoist those unfortunate beings up into the waiting stomach to be dissolved by strong hydrochloric acids. This digestion creates the hydrogen that keeps the beast aloft. Though it is attracted to body heat it instinctively fears fire and can be warded away if there is flame or heat enough near by. One such example of this happening was totally by accident when a locomotive on the trans continental ran head long into the trailing tendrils. The engineer was killed out right as the static discharged against the iron horse and the fire man and conductor had to bring the engine into the next station alone. The heat from the engine sent the beast into a panic and it huffed away with incredible speed.
 It seems the tentacles also can sense the ground as they don't drag or leave tracks. Doing so would cause the static discharge.

 Well that's my two cents. Hope it's helpful.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2009, 06:55:22 pm »

The flying man of war

It uses methan as it lift gas, produced from its organic food,captured by electrically stunning it then it is injected with a powerful enzime, causing rapid decay and methan production, also in its death throws such creatures are prone to cause explosions as metal shorts it tenticular stunners to its methane gas bag


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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2009, 07:01:25 pm »

One of Frank Herbert's books had large flying creatures that had a gas bag and dragging tentacles. They were part of the life cycle of a sentient kelp... The Jesus Incident or The Lazarus Effect... I'll check my bookshelf when I get home...
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2009, 07:04:49 pm »

Aww, no tentacles? Sad
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2009, 09:42:41 pm »

The lift gas seems to be either methane (or similar flammable hydrocarbon) or hydrogen, so either way likely to lead to explosions in the presence of sparks. I therefore think that the jellyfish would use poisonous hairs on the tentacles to stun its prey rather than electrostatic charge as the production of sparks would be contrary to Mr Darwins theory of evolution ~ poison suckers would be more successful, and so more likely to be the dominant gene!
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2009, 09:51:06 pm »

The pores you describe are infact there feeding into the "jet sack" used for the sudden burst of speed in what ever direction it happens to be facing at the time.
I said that anyways......
and they don't have tentacles because they are modified for the air not the water and tentacles would cause problems such as a train running into them so they are more compact,but whatever im not posting anything more over the subject If its going to turn into a debate,i was simply postingMY PERSONAL THEORY,and the last forum posting website i went to criticized everything you said and turned everything into a stinkin debate,thats why i leave most forum sites.
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 09:59:21 pm »

NO ! OH GOD NO ! OH GOD NO ARGHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







*clockwork is a tad scared of jelly fish*
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 10:01:17 pm »

NO ! OH GOD NO ! OH GOD NO ARGHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







*clockwork is a tad scared of jelly fish*
Huh??
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 10:12:21 pm »

It sounds rather too complex for a jellyfish to me. Possibly some kind of aetheric comb-jelly, though I think you might have found a whole new phylum there.
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2009, 10:14:36 pm »

*clockwork is a tad scared of jelly fish*
Narrator: His weakness revealed, an untimely jelly-related defeat by the steam master was imminent ...
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2009, 10:19:50 pm »

NO ! OH GOD NO ! OH GOD NO ARGHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







*clockwork is a tad scared of jelly fish*
and doesn't know when to stop....

However Judicator, I don't think anyone is criticising your idea, they are just getting enthusiastic about it and providing some builds. It is your idea, you can take some or none of the builds, it is your choice. Take it from me, if people didn't like it, they would have said so (but politely). As it is, I think the volume of replies indicates interest and enthusiasm for your brainchild. I like it, it's original (to me anyway) and you should take it further.
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2009, 10:36:01 pm »

oh no i think its a brilliant idea, please dont mistake my fear of jelly fish for an insult im just petrified of them
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2009, 10:41:26 pm »

NO ! OH GOD NO ! OH GOD NO ARGHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







*clockwork is a tad scared of jelly fish*
and doesn't know when to stop....

However Judicator, I don't think anyone is criticising your idea, they are just getting enthusiastic about it and providing some builds. It is your idea, you can take some or none of the builds, it is your choice. Take it from me, if people didn't like it, they would have said so (but politely). As it is, I think the volume of replies indicates interest and enthusiasm for your brainchild. I like it, it's original (to me anyway) and you should take it further.
I dont think i can take it any further,it all came to me in a dream basically,though i worked out the kinks myself when i was awake....
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2009, 11:06:54 pm »

OK mate, park it up and maybe it will come in handy in the future! If you think you may get into writing in the future (and the air jellyfish is pretty imaginative) then perhaps start a scrapbook of stuff like this with notes and sketches so they don't get forgotten.
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2009, 11:10:48 pm »

I dont think i can take it any further,it all came to me in a dream basically,though i worked out the kinks myself when i was awake....
Awww... I was just getting into this one. Sorry if I took your idea and ran. When you asked me to look at this thread last night I thought you were looking for ideas/suggestions.
 Didn't mean to step on any toes. 

 Sincerest of apologies.  Embarrassed

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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2009, 11:25:24 pm »

I dont think i can take it any further,it all came to me in a dream basically,though i worked out the kinks myself when i was awake....
Awww... I was just getting into this one. Sorry if I took your idea and ran. When you asked me to look at this thread last night I thought you were looking for ideas/suggestions.
 Didn't mean to step on any toes. 

 Sincerest of apologies.  Embarrassed

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No,no its really all my fault,i over reacted,I tend to do that alot,any way if you wanna modify it thats fine I just thought you were trying to change it.......
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2009, 11:34:16 pm »

Some species may have no tentacles, or perhaps tendrils as they are not prehensile; as they may have a xooxanthellae like symbiotic plant cell inside them like a coral or the jellies in Jellyfish Lagoon which are unarmed as the symbiote converts enough solar power for both organisms.

Out of character for a moment: in reality, some scientists have imagined, even theorised, such organisms living in the atmospheres of gas giants...
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2009, 01:51:00 am »

The only thing I havent worked out is how they might see.....
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2009, 02:38:11 am »

The only thing I havent worked out is how they might see.....

Maybe they don't? I don't think marine jellies can sense more than light intensity and direction, if that. They mostly feed by either grabbing anything that touches their tentacles, or straining out anything that floats by.
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2009, 04:19:16 am »

No, they only have a photocell-like array of light sensitive cells to detect light falling on the surface; eyes would be useless on a creature with so little brain you could program a computer to be one; basically when a shadow falls on the array on on side the lips change shape reflexively so the thrust is angled in an another direction. The creature is fully automated and works by reflex, having smeg-all brain tissue to speak of. http://www.dnr.sc.gov/marine/pub/seascience/jellyfi.html
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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2009, 04:57:18 am »

The lift gas seems to be either methane (or similar flammable hydrocarbon) or hydrogen, so either way likely to lead to explosions in the presence of sparks. I therefore think that the jellyfish would use poisonous hairs on the tentacles to stun its prey rather than electrostatic charge as the production of sparks would be contrary to Mr Darwins theory of evolution ~ poison suckers would be more successful, and so more likely to be the dominant gene!


 Since I seem to have been effectively forgiven I will continue with my "now outdated post" that I put so much thought into earlier. (sorry but it's been some time since I have had the opportunity to stretch my imagination in this fashion)
 My thanks to Judicator for starting such an interesting topic!  Grin

 I will not argue against the use of poison barbs as used in this creatures aquatic cousins, however I wouldn't discount the use of static discharge based on Darwinism. (especially since Darwin says it can't fly either)
 The sparks only discharge when in contact with the ground or someone/thing making the "path of least resistance". This of course is well away from the lifting gas envelope. This is no different from you dragging your feet across the carpet and touching the door knob with your finger. Do your ears tingle when you discharge static this way? Mine never have. I see no "serious" threat to the lifting gas through static discharge.
 Having given slightly more thought to the matter, I would think this beast would only feed at night .(under normal circumstances)
Durring the day the sun would warm the envelope expanding the gas inside causing the flying jelly fish to gain altitude. At sundown the creature descends to earth to feed and replenish any gas lost through venting. A daytime feeding could be the result of being aloft too long being blown off it's usual air currents by a storm or some other irregular meteorological event. (blame it on El Niño)
 Poison suckers I could see as a residual evolutionary "left over" as such is your Coccyx. Suckers would only really work if they were "wet". And since water is pretty heavy, I would see this "jellyfish" as being fairly dry and rubbery in texture. (Hmmm... possibly not even a carbon based life form, silicon based even?) Just thinking on the fly there.
 Poison barbs, perhaps. But I can't think of a single land/avian creature (in the natural world) that uses suckers.(snails/slugs don't fly and are just this side of being amphibious in the sense that they require water to keep moist)
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2009, 09:19:53 am »

Well, I still think a sparky Air JellyFish is more likely to become extinct than a stinger one. I am reading Dr.Eckener's Dream Machine at the moment, it's principally about the Graf Zeppelin, and they were very touchy about sparks! Hydrogen becomes inflammable at just 4% in air (ref Dr.Fzzzz). I agree the fact that suckers would be less likely and more typical of aquatic creatures. Although, what is it that enables gheckos and lizards to climb walls? I think Douglas Adams would have loved this idea.....
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2009, 10:11:56 am »

 The foot pads of geckos and some lizards are actually micro-filaments that find imperfections on any surface.(even glass) This is what enables them to traverse walls and even ceilings. I suppose tree frogs use a sort of suction cup on their toes but were back to being wet and heavy.
 Micro-filament fibers on the other hand would lend credit to your poison barb theory though and there you have a good point. However the skin of the jellyfish is probably not made of aluminum and iron and is not flammable to begin with. (as was the case with "Hindenburg") So the comparison to a Graf Zeppelin is not entirely fair. Man with all his technology has yet to create anything that has not been accomplished by nature first and certainly not as fine a design.
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