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« Reply #1550 on: June 07, 2010, 09:55:23 am »

Hi. I make the plate 40mm, but that's being measured with an old and battered ruler, my steel rule is nowhere to be found, and I haven't got a micrometre yet.

Hmm...40mm would probably be a 17-19''' watch (38mm to 42mm).  The keyless plate looks a bit like what Longines or Moeris used, but I don't see a direct match to anything.  However, are there pieces missing?  There looks like there might have been a piece to the upper right of the stem, and possibly a second screw on the plate.

I think that's where there once was a screw holding the movement in the case (there's another one missing in line with 5 o'clock).
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« Reply #1551 on: June 23, 2010, 08:09:17 pm »

Just received this lovely article via the Electronic Bay.

Could anyone tell me what the numbers mean? (Not those numbers... I'm not quite that endunced.)


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« Reply #1552 on: June 23, 2010, 11:16:32 pm »

Does this wonderful thing run?

The outer ring of the face, with the oddly spaced numbers and the "Graduated for 30 Pulsations" legend are a pulsemeter. You start the stopwatch from the twelve o'clock position, count thirty beats of anything beating, and stop it. The stopwatch hand will indicate the beats per minute on this scale.

Does the inset dial show minutes or seconds? If that's the minute indicator, then the long central hand is a stopwatch and pulsemeter hand. If it indicates seconds, and the hand that looks like a minute hand is, you're missing a stopwatch hand.

The indicator at the top is peculiar as well, and I have no idea why the minute (or stopwatch seconds) marks on the inner ring follow a 3 black and 2 red sequence. Who or what is "new York & Söhend"? What's "Glasent"? This watch deserves much study!
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« Reply #1553 on: June 24, 2010, 10:02:54 am »

The bottom dial is indeed a second hand; the two main hands operate as any watch should.

The top most dial's hand is half red and half blue, and has definitely changed position since the watch was first wound - it does indeed work, rather perfectly - but I'm not sure what it means. The little blue picture at the top is now a sunshine, which is rather nice.

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« Reply #1554 on: June 25, 2010, 07:20:19 pm »

I suspect you have a frankenwatch made using a chinese "bridge" style movement, similar to the H3612S (http://www.ofrei.com/page1119.html, about halfway down).  Without at least a sweep second hand, the "pulsation" dial is pointless; someone probably repurposed it for this "project".  Which is a shame, because the dial looks to be from a 30's or 40's watch.  The top part is a just a sun/moon indicator (am/pm).  Again, somewhat pointless unless you happen to work in a mine for weeks at a time. 
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« Reply #1555 on: June 26, 2010, 01:25:35 am »

I suspect you have a frankenwatch made using a chinese "bridge" style movement, similar to the H3612S (http://www.ofrei.com/page1119.html, about halfway down).  Without at least a sweep second hand, the "pulsation" dial is pointless; someone probably repurposed it for this "project".  Which is a shame, because the dial looks to be from a 30's or 40's watch.  The top part is a just a sun/moon indicator (am/pm).  Again, somewhat pointless unless you happen to work in a mine for weeks at a time. 


I figured as much. Either way, it may be useless but it looks awful purdy and does the time-telling thing rather well; all I need in a watch, and did I mention awful purdy? Same goes for the sun/moon dial. Such glee!

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« Reply #1556 on: July 07, 2010, 08:47:47 am »

I started a new thread with pics of my pocket watch, but was pointed in this direction.
This was bought for me by my good lady, for Christmas in 2008; about 9 months before I knew of the existence of Steampunk. I guess I was destined to arrive here  Wink

I've no idea how much it cost, nor where she bought it.



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« Reply #1557 on: July 07, 2010, 09:05:57 pm »

Greetings!
It's been a while since I've haunted BG, but my interest in Pocket Watches and all things steamy has remained unphased. Whilst free at college a few friends and I went to the local antiques shop and as per usual I gravitated towards to watch cabinet. Inside I saw an item that I instantly warmed to - with nothing more than the labelled description "Swiss Pocket Watch £55" I swallowed my inhibitions and reserved it. Upon purchasing the item yesterday I discovered that the movement, whilst lacking oil and usage, ran flawlessly (but gained a few seconds an hour), save for one small problem with Winding/set positions that was quickly rectified with the help of my 'Beggar's Toolbox' (Comprising of a largeish needle and several sharpened screwdrivers)

Enough of my dross, Here are the photos: -




The watch itself has seen many years of use and probably wasn't polished between now and its last service (More on that later)


It would seem that someone had attempted to open the cuvette with a scrwdriver (possibly 10 sizes too big for the recess)


... If only they'd used their thumbnail. (Not that I'm too bothered, Scratches add to it's overall charm and appeal)


Of interest are the minuscule markings on the lid.

From left to right: D/K GM/R (CM/R?), 9516, 2526, 9526, 7541, 1453, 5666, GWM (GWH?) S/H (Second-Hand?) R+/+ (Rt/t?) Intriguing.

My guess is that the four digit numbers are dates in d/m/yy format, if this is the case the watch pre-dates 1916. Also engraved in the centre of the same lid is "0723DR<" and the stamped digit "2" (possibly a hallmark?). The case bares the serial number 300890 and the movements serial is 311434, Would anyone be able to dig up some information on these? All I know so far is that it's an English watch that predates 1916 Tongue



Cleaned; Polished and given a drop of oil, It'll hopefully see many more years of service Cheesy

(More Photos can be found here: http://www.majhost.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=228129 or here with some annotations http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=239765&id=533277176&l=1d97c056fb)

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« Reply #1558 on: July 23, 2010, 10:14:44 pm »

I was 'GAAAAAAAAHING' in another thread about breaking my pocket watch yesterday and how annoyed I was. Well, The Countess, (gawd bless 'er) found me a replacement on line. I've just purchased this rather fetching half-hunter on the Bay of E.  I was rather taken by it's brass and wood combo case cover. How steamy is that?
*does happy dance*

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« Reply #1559 on: July 23, 2010, 10:34:29 pm »

Greetings!

the marks on your watch may be pawn marks. Indicating the watch was pawned many times. Not 100% on that, but it's a possibility.
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« Reply #1560 on: July 24, 2010, 04:22:28 am »

Markings in the inside of a watch case are generally service marks. Watchmakers often scratch a code(understood only by them) in the back cover of a watch any time they service it.

Most of us now refrain from the practice on antique watches(especially those of us who only service antiques), however at one time it was nearly universal, and some still do it.
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« Reply #1561 on: July 24, 2010, 11:28:16 pm »

I was 'GAAAAAAAAHING' in another thread about breaking my pocket watch yesterday and how annoyed I was. Well, The Countess, (gawd bless 'er) found me a replacement on line. I've just purchased this rather fetching half-hunter on the Bay of E.  I was rather taken by it's brass and wood combo case cover. How steamy is that?
*does happy dance*

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« Reply #1562 on: July 25, 2010, 05:39:19 am »

In the two weeks since buying my first 'proper' watch, I seem to have amassed quite the collection! At this rate, i'll be swimming in them in no time!  Cheesy


English key-wound half-plate Sterling Silver hallmarked 1888,  (at current at my watchmaker's for a repair estimate) dolefully purchased with a worn down balance staff Sad. SN: 30466
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1890/1900ish Cheap-and-cheerful Pinset. Freebie from my watchmaker, Crystal and hands taken from a 1930's Smiths, Stem and Castlewheel taken from a 1920'sish gunmetal jobbie. Amazingly, they fit perfectly!
*Looks over at HAC with puppy eyes* Have you any ideas about this one? It's marked "SWISS MADE", but is of a low quality with a pin pallet escapement, I'd like to get it going regardless - All it reuqires is a new pallet-fork pin and stem detent.
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Early 1900's Swissy, (more photos above)



My famous 'Bolshevik' watch (Another freebie from local Watchmaker Smiley)
I actually got this one going today, and then my mother saw fit to bother me and I ran my screwdriver right across the poor thing's balance staff :|; If anyone has any SU 3602 movements they're willing to part with, I'll be sure to give it a good home Smiley



Modern Woodford - What I used to wear every day.

Also, various movements, cases and othersuch toys Smiley

Back to nursing my insomnia, has anyone any spare Laudanum they're willing to lend me?

- Jeorge





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« Reply #1563 on: August 18, 2010, 06:15:29 am »

Here's my first pocketwatch. It's a cheap one, but I like how it looks and it runs well so far. Hopefully it at least lasts the school year.
Having this one makes me want to buy more. Grin



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Photos from ebay listing.

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« Reply #1564 on: September 10, 2010, 03:47:30 pm »

Would anybody know where I could get my hands on a pocket-sun-dial...Huh

I'm considering making one, perhaps a number of them.
If anybody would be interested in one - do drop me a line and I'll set to work!

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« Reply #1565 on: September 13, 2010, 11:28:55 am »

I just turned 30 last week and my wife, knowing me so well, bought me a new pocket-watch.  [link]



It might not be fancy, but it might well be one of the nicest gifts anyone has given me in a long time.  It has such a soothing hiss rather than a tick and seems less prone to random failures than the battery-powered watches I have owned.

Would anybody know where I could get my hands on a pocket-sun-dial...Huh

In a manner of speaking, yes.  I have a gimmicky 'Stonehenge' pocket-watch from Think Geek, which includes a miniature Stonehenge (with a gnomon and compass) and this can be used as both calendar and sun-dial... (http://www.stonehengewatch.com/)  They don't sell that watch any more, as far as I can tell, but they do sell sundial and moondial pendants, which might be of interest. - http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/watches/e56d/
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« Reply #1566 on: September 18, 2010, 05:57:26 pm »

i recieved one of the Early 1900's Swiss watches (shown above thanks to Jeorge) from my late grandfather. I was told by a watch specialist that its approx 1890+ origin and is of Railway standard. i still proudly use it from time to time but fear one day i might break it, tho it keeps such perfect time it's hard to resist pocketing it before i leave the house.
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« Reply #1567 on: September 20, 2010, 01:08:47 pm »

Hi all very new to the steam punk field but a fan of pocket watches. I have spent the last two days going through all the posts on this thread (really slow here at the office) and am truly amazed at all of your collections. Unfortunately my meager pay check doesn’t let me purchase a good mechanical and after reading through a few pages I have decided I will just save until I can afford one. I have a question that might be answered here but if I am in the wrong thread please let me know. As a gift a number of years ago my parents gave me a lovely Elgin; battery powered but a nice understated gold pocket watch. I was trying carefully to replace the battery recently and simply cannot get the back to stay on the watch. Since my mechanical inclination, when it comes to delicate items, matches my pay check "my theory has always been if it don't work get a bigger hammer"I would love some advice from you experts.  Thanks in advance for any help,
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« Reply #1568 on: September 22, 2010, 01:24:14 pm »

Evening Doctor. *tips hat*
If you would be able to post a picture of the back or the type of watch it is i might be able to help you out. I tinker with a fair few pocket watches but i'm affraid i'm not a professional, tho if i'm unable to provide an answer i'm sure someone on the forums will certainly be able to.

Wishing you well.
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« Reply #1569 on: September 23, 2010, 01:35:51 pm »

Good evening Mr. Killford,

Unfortunately I don’t yet own a digital camera (I know how shocking) the only description I can give is that is a late 90’s Elgin quartz movement(?). I did not see any protrusions to keep the backing in place and it does not screw back on, already tried that. I thought of taking it to a repair shop but can’t find one that is close.

Thanks again for any help,
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« Reply #1570 on: September 23, 2010, 02:03:42 pm »

Hi Doc,

It's probably a snap-back , but you'd need a case-press to fit it on properly, because you need to apply a lot of pressure evenly around the whole case.  I tend to find that when people try to put these on themselves, it ends up deforming the case back a bit, which ends up making it even harder to put on.
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« Reply #1571 on: September 25, 2010, 10:56:28 pm »

i recieved one of the Early 1900's Swiss watches (shown above thanks to Jeorge) from my late grandfather. I was told by a watch specialist that its approx 1890+ origin and is of Railway standard. i still proudly use it from time to time but fear one day i might break it, tho it keeps such perfect time it's hard to resist pocketing it before i leave the house.

Ooh! There's another out there! Care to share some photos? Cheesy
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« Reply #1572 on: September 26, 2010, 09:36:37 am »

Thank you Abslomrob i suppose it is time to get back on the net and start looking for a repair shop again.  Grin
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« Reply #1573 on: October 09, 2010, 07:15:58 am »

This is my pocket watch.  It is sexy.



I got it for $28 bucks at an antique store (but have no delusions about its age; I know it's not old).  It was the first mechanical pocket watch I have come across (though for some reason it never occured to me to shop for them online).



It is a Majesti watch, made in China.  17 Jewel.  I have heard that they don't last, but at the moment it keeps great time (as long as I remember to wind it).  Since I love the look of it, and it actually works quite well, this will be my primary time piece for as long as it continues to function.

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« Reply #1574 on: October 11, 2010, 01:05:27 am »

~~is having pocketwatch lust....... Grin
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