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Author Topic: Tarzan in a steampunk world.  (Read 2393 times)
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« on: December 31, 2008, 06:19:55 pm »

I am re-reading Tarzan of the Apes by E.R.B and now I find myself wondering how things could have been different for him had the steampunk world would have been his.

His parents were marroned on the West African coast with barlely the basics, yet a libary was one of the things the mutinieers choose to leave with them. Tarzan taught himself to read, but what would have happened if in that libary there were texts on metalurgy, and steam works?

Would he wear brass goggles if discovered with his fathers hunting knife?

The story is set in the Victorian era although far removed from any technical process. Yet with the improvements in technology that had to have happened in the years that Tarzan grew up, what wonders would Jane Portor and co. would have brought with them? Cold they have crashed in the jungle via airship instead of similarly abondoned like Lord and Lady Greystoke near two decades prior?

I would love to hear other opinions about this.
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2009, 03:04:54 pm »

I was hoping in post int that it would get it out of my head.

I have to steampunk my Tarzan!!!!

Oh have I slipped in to madness.....
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2009, 03:14:42 pm »

I have to steampunk my Tarzan!!!!

Oh have I slipped in to madness.....

Have you slipped into madness?
Probably.
But since when has that stopped any of us?

Carry on.
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2009, 01:15:03 am »

I'd be interested to see what you make of the idea. I have to admit the premise, while not immediately appealing to me, does have me wondering what on earth you can make of it. Good journey to that world you've created, bring us news.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2009, 07:53:26 pm »

in a steampunk word tarzan would be shot in the face and have his head mounted on the wall of a gentelmans smoking room OR he would be captured and put in a circus / freak show
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2009, 10:08:20 pm »

Edgar Rice Burroughs already did it, to some extent, in his Magnum Opus Tarzan at the Earth's Core http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601071h.html

Seriously, the book is so bad, it truly defies description.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 03:16:42 am »

I was just reading a bit about Tarzan. He often seems to discover some unknown civilization. Perhaps you could have a story where he comes across an African civilization using high-tech things like steam engines and airships. Or less high-tech, hot air balloons and signalling towers.
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2010, 03:45:54 am »

A steampunk tarzan would be probably a science vs nature thing, Tarzan being the ambassador of nature and Jane of science. She would be a kind of a steam wench. Also,it would be a airship crash instead of a shipwreck would will brought the Greytoke.
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2010, 08:52:57 am »

I don't know if you could publish a steampunk tarzan (copyrights and all) but it would be well worth posting here for us folks to read. Smiley

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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2010, 02:45:22 pm »

Although "Tarzan" is still held under trademark by ERB, Inc.,
various authors have made use of the character over the
years - Philip José Farmer, for example.
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2010, 08:11:12 pm »

I think there's quite a bit of licence to do what you will with Tarzan, so to speak. For example, ERB's Tarzan and the Foreign Legion is set much later, and explains that Tarzan and others took a compound at some point. and as a result haven't showed any sign of aging since. This to me is a sign that it.s fine to depart from 'accepted normality' in the stories...
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2016, 08:36:37 pm »

As there is a new Tarzan movie coming out, I felt like resurrecting this thread.
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2016, 10:02:10 pm »

As there is a new Tarzan movie coming out, I felt like resurrecting this thread.

Thanks, as I had not seen this thread before.

The original novel is in the public domain, so characters and situations therein are free to use. However, the Burroughs estate has trademarked the name "Tarzan". Modern authors who have included the character have gotten around this by referring to "The Jungle Lord", "The Lord of the Apes", and even the name "Greystoke" (although less frequently). Even Philip José Farmer (Tarzan Alive:  A Definitive Biography of Lord Greystoke, The Adventure of the Peerless Peer, The Dark Heart of Time, etc.) has alternately been granted or denied permission to use the name from book to book.

So, knock yourself out using Tarzan in your story, just don't call him Tarzan.

As far as Tarzan in a Steampunk world, well, the first book always felt like it should have started at least twenty years earlier than it does anyway, so yeah, steam that ape man.
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2016, 03:18:36 am »


In keeping true to the real Tarzan story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarzan

William Charles Mildin, 14th Earl of Streatham. Purported to be the insiration  for Burroughs' Tarzan

http://www.erbzine.com/mag14/1449.html

 Map of Equatorial Africa , Atlantic Coast.


Despite Burroughs classic leaving more  questions than it answers, there is strong elements running through the biography of Tarzan  indicating he lived through both the Steampunk and into the Diesel-punk era.   He was born during  the late Victorian  period and reached manhood before the Great War  ww1.   The travel options  for his parents' fateful expedition in  those decades would include steam rail & ship; airship travel was in its infancy and secret experimental  phase being tested in the colonies at that time, motor vehicle travel was available. Early covert aeroplane  experiments cannot be ruled out.  The clues in the literature  for their location are French West African equatorial  colony with  nearby Arab states. This would  on or below the Cape Verde , possibly Senegal or Guinea, less likely  the Republic  of Congo

Tarzan's parents were British [colonists/ adventurers/ diplomats / explorers / missionaries / spies ??]that somehow found themselves in serious strife in the equatorial  French West African territories and subsequently met a bad end.  The expedition  could have been ambushed, derailed, shot down,  shipwrecked, crashed .  Either by mechanical failure , natural disaster , French military forces, Arab bandits  or native attack. Primitive warfare  methods could have been utilised,  modern weapons technology or a combination of both.

Dependent on how old  Tarzan was  when he was orphaned by his father's death  and how  much  technical knowledge  Clayton sr possessed; Tarzan could have had a limited  working knowledge and ability for rudimentary engineering  and design.  He potentially could have had steampunk technology at hand.

In order to travel across the African continent  with his escapades, return to Britain and back to Africa he would  have had to use established pre WW1  travel options , train, boat, plane and automobile.

Even the late  Viscount Greystoke may not have known all the answers to these and other quandaries.

There is great scope with in the tale of Tarzan  to have broad  poetic license with a  steampunk - dieselpunk aesthetic  lent to the imagination  for filling in the gaps.
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2016, 10:19:44 am »

What timing, I was just watching the Lord Greystoke film a few days back.


There's plenty of room to give Tarzan a Steampunk makeover, be it in Africa with crashed airships, added The Jungle Bunch style inventions or more out there concepts like having the parents solar clipper crashing en route to colonies on Mars or Venus and being raised be the wildlife there.
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2016, 10:30:15 am »

For a number of years I was under the impression that Tarzana California was named after ERB most famous creation, but much later on read that it was, in fact, the other way around. 
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2016, 12:07:16 pm »

Not Steampunk but Tarzan fans might like to know that Dark Horse Comics are releasing a new title...
'Tarzan On The Planet Of The Apes'.

Yes, that 'Tarzan' and that 'Planet Of The Apes'.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2016, 02:08:18 pm »

I am looking forward to the new Tarzan movie.
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2016, 04:07:35 pm »

Edgar Rice Burroughs already did it, to some extent, in his Magnum Opus Tarzan at the Earth's Core http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601071h.html

Seriously, the book is so bad, it truly defies description.


I've only read a few Tarzan books, and At the Earth's Core was my favorite.
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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2016, 04:15:14 pm »

Someone mentioned Mars and Venus. Besides the more well known John Carter of Mars series, Burroughs also wrote one called Carson of Venus.

One possible change could also be that the city of Opar was a bit more technologically advanced, before it's fall.
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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2016, 10:41:14 pm »

...William Charles Mildin, 14th Earl of Streatham. Purported to be the insiration  for Burroughs' Tarzan

http://www.erbzine.com/mag14/1449.html
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I was under the impression this had been debunked, and was as much a fiction as Farmer's biography. Anyone know anything one way or the other?
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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2016, 11:12:35 pm »

Everything traces back to one article in a fandom magazine, and that article cites historic news articles that don't exist.
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2016, 01:21:23 pm »

Everything traces back to one article in a fandom magazine, and that article cites historic news articles that don't exist.

And according to 'Debrett's Peerage of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland' there's never been a 1st Earl of Streatham let alone a 14th....  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2016, 09:58:24 pm »

...William Charles Mildin, 14th Earl of Streatham. Purported to be the insiration  for Burroughs' Tarzan

http://www.erbzine.com/mag14/1449.html
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I was under the impression this had been debunked, and was as much a fiction as Farmer's biography. Anyone know anything one way or the other?


The story and  biography was debunked as a hoax. He was no more real that Tarzan  - but it makes for good reading

 [ why ruin a good story with the truth? ]
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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2016, 11:22:45 am »

Did anyone watch the new Tarzan movie? Is it any good?
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